well first, I don't think Sammy's actions were in the same class as Pujols', and I've never been the biggest Sammy Sosa fan. and second, Sandberg would take a look at the ball, then flick his bat away in a very cocky manner when he knew he got one. I haven't seen the development of this thread, but these are things in the class of Pujol's walk 1/3 of the way down the first base line and pointing to the sky after crossing the plate, as opposed to showing up Perez. I agree. Sammy's over-the-top antics were much worse than anything Pujols has done. I don't recall Ryno ever flipping his bat, showing up another player, showing off, having any altercations with his teammates or having a reputation as anything other than the consumate team player. Can you supply a link to dispute this or back up the "cocky" claim? not sure how you agree with me. I never said that Sammy's antics were worse than Pujols. what I am saying is there is a class of activities that are considered outside the bounds of what alot of fans like to see, but in my opinion do not extend to showing up another player. they could still be considered cocky or showing off. such examples are Sosa's hop, Pujols walk 1/3 of the way down the first base line, and Sandberg's bat flip (he's my favorite player of all time, but this did in fact occur, like it or not). I do agree there are varying degrees of these activities. but there is another class of activities that can only be summed up as showing up other players. Pujols bat toss is one. Bonds doing a little spin down the first base line is another. Derrick Bell standing at home plate, watching his HR and sayin "oh, my god" is another. Jose Lima shooting batters down is another. I didnt' see Perez, but I imagine his antics were another. then again, there's a fine line, because celebrating one's own excellent performance can often be confused with showing up another player. ie I don't think Z ever showed up Bonds on that comebacker a couple of years ago, he was just stoked that he got the best hitter in baseball in a big situation, but it's easy to understand how Bonds would interpret Z's reaction as showing him up. Bonds spin is probably something that sits on this line as well, but it was so overtly outside of the bounds of sportsmanship, it can too easily be interpreted as showing someone up. these are all questions about what was going through the player's minds at the time. sometimes you can tell from the situation, other times you can't. what I do know is that true professionals generally don't retaliate to being shown up. they get their revenge with performance, and that is good enough.