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  • How Much Does Shohei Ohtani Shift the Cubs on the Competitive Curve?


    Brandon Glick

    There’s no denying who the best free agent on the market is this year: Shohei Ohtani. If the Cubs were to land their white whale, how would that change the future trajectory of the team?

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    Let's be clear right off the top: Regardless of whether Shohei Ohtani is wearing Cubs pinstripes come March 2024, the Cubs will be expected to compete for at least an NLCS berth. They’re going to have a lavish offseason no matter what--or at least, that’s the expectation, after the shocking decision to hire Craig Counsell in place of David Ross in early November. However, if Ohtani does decide to come to Chicago, what exactly will that mean for the team in the near and foreseeable future? 

    No More Bellinger
    The most obvious change to the composition of the Cubs will be in regard to their own in-house free agents. Ohtani is all but certain to receive a record-setting contract (most projections have him in the ten-year, $500-million range) and will alter the Cubs’ balance sheet for a while. You can check this handy breakdown from Spotrac for in-depth details, but the big-picture numbers are as follows: the Cubs currently have about $160 million dedicated to their 2024 luxury tax, with another $24 million or so projected in arbitration and pre-arbitration salaries, which would leave them about $52 million under the first tier of the Competitive Balance Tax threshold. 

    Now, rumors are that the Cubs are going to spend, and that they will be willing to do so beyond the first tier of the CBT. Major League Baseball defines the tiers of the CBT as follows: “$20 million to $40 million [above base tier of $237 million]: 12 percent surcharge; $40 million to $60 million: 42.5 percent surcharge for first year; 45 percent for each consecutive year after that; $60 million or more: 60 percent surcharge. Clubs that are $40 million or more above the threshold shall have their highest selection in the next Rule 4 Draft moved back 10 places, unless the pick falls in the top six. In that case, the team will have its second-highest selection moved back 10 places instead.” There are also penalties for consecutive years spent over the CBT threshold and more egregious penalties placed on big-market teams like the Cubs (full details can be found here), but for now, let’s assume the Cubs will be willing to spend up to that first tier (an extra $20 million in room on the luxury tax). 

    If you expect Ohtani to cost roughly $50 million in AAV, that only leaves the Cubs about $22 million with which to operate across the rest of the offseason and through next season, assuming no salaries are moved out via trade (more on that in a moment). Cody Bellinger is going to command at least that much on his next deal following his Comeback Player of the Year campaign, which will put him out of the Cubs' range. The team is going to need reinforcements in both the bullpen and rotation, which will leave little room for other expenditures.

    Trades Galore?
    So how, pray tell, will the Cubs make those additions with such little room to maneuver? Well, the trade market will be flush with options, and chances are that with so many high-profile starting pitchers on the market this winter, trade costs may be kept at bay (though the number of potential buyers on the market could prove to be a boon for sellers). 

    Rumors have had the Cubs in on Juan Soto this offseason, though that’s likely a contingency if plan A (Ohtani) falls through. It is possible the Cubs will be willing to exceed the next tier of the CBT to put Ohtani and Soto on the same roster in 2024, though they’d almost certainly try to shed long-term salary from there (in a separate deal; the Padres will not be taking back any money if they trade Soto). More likely, the Cubs will try to buy a couple of under-the-radar bullpen additions, like they did at the trade deadline with José Cuas, while perhaps trying to use their top-ranked farm system to buy a young, controllable starting pitcher. 

    That depth the team has been cultivating in the minors will prove extremely useful, should the Cubs get Ohtani, either as valuable trade bait or as cost-efficient talent. Guys like Pete Crow-Armstrong and Cade Horton will be sticking around, but almost any other prospect in the organization feels like fair game this offseason--a sentiment that only grows more likely if Ohtani is indeed a Cub. 

    Beyond 2024
    Of course, signing Shohei Ohtani isn’t a one-year deal (no, he isn’t taking a “prove-it deal” à la Bellinger while he rehabs his arm post-Tommy John surgery). He’ll likely return to the mound at some point in 2025, giving whatever team signs him an ace-caliber starting pitcher on top of his usual dominance at the plate. His contract is going to swallow a team’s payroll for the next decade or so, which will make the ancillary moves made around him all the more important.  

    Signing Ohtani is somewhat akin to the LeBron James free agency tour: you need to surround your new north star with some complementary talent. Luckily, the Cubs are well-prepared in that department, with the likes of PCA, Horton, Jordan Wicks, Christopher Morel (if he isn’t traded), and more poised to be long-term contributors while under team control. But the Cubs (literally) won’t be able to afford to swing and miss on their medium-term moves, like they did with Edwin Jackson a decade ago or what is potentially happening right now with Jameson Taillon (though he was much better in the second half in 2023). The spotlight will be on the “role players” to play up to expectations, while Ohtani garners the attention of the national pundits. 

    No matter what, signing Ohtani would be among the biggest organizational victories in the Cubs’ storied history. For all the legendary talents whp have called Wrigley Field home, it would be hard to argue that any of them had the magnitude of talent that Ohtani does. Perhaps, for that matter, no one in the history of baseball has, either. The signing would make the Cubs the epicenter of the baseball world again, and, with some smart planning, it would finally give Ohtani something he’s somehow never had in his career: a chance to play for a World Series contender.

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    I appreciate reading an objective article on what it would mean for the Cubs going forward, as opposed to just evaluating an Ohtani signing on a surface level. I’m not sure whether the majority of the Cubs blog/podcast world is just trying to get clicks and listeners, or if they are really that shortsighted.

    This article lays most of it out there, so great work. A few additional points and slight disagreements with the ones made here.

    1. This signing would not only impact signings in the near future, but likely for most of the contract. And it really relies on three or four prospects to pan out so that the Ohtani contract won’t hurt as much in the near future, at least. And that is unlikely.

    2. Even if Ohtani performs at a high level into his mid-30s, that still leaves a few years at the end that will likely be ugly. For example, Albert Pujols began a decline from elite to just so-so after his age 31 season, and Ohtani will play this season at 29.

    3. We don’t know if Ohtani will pitch again, and even if he does, we don’t know at what level. If he doesn’t, he’s just a $50-60 million per year DH. Which means he has to hit like he did last year just to somewhat justify his contract.

    4, Do we know how well he would do playing so many more games in cold weather?

    5. He’s likely to have multiple opt outs, which of course he will only use if it’s to his advantage, as opposed to if his production falls off  after a couple years or he sustains a serious injury.

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    Just now, Maddux31 said:

    I appreciate reading an objective article on what it would mean for the Cubs going forward, as opposed to just evaluating an Ohtani signing on a surface level. I’m not sure whether the majority of the Cubs blog/podcast world is just trying to get clicks and listeners, or if they are really that shortsighted.

    This article lays most of it out there, so great work. A few additional points and slight disagreements with the ones made here.

    1. This signing would not only impact signings in the near future, but likely for most of the contract. And it really relies on three or four prospects to pan out so that the Ohtani contract won’t hurt as much in the near future, at least. And that is unlikely.

    2. Even if Ohtani performs at a high level into his mid-30s, that still leaves a few years at the end that will likely be ugly. For example, Albert Pujols began a decline from elite to just so-so after his age 31 season, and Ohtani will play this season at 29.

    3. We don’t know if Ohtani will pitch again, and even if he does, we don’t know at what level. If he doesn’t, he’s just a $50-60 million per year DH. Which means he has to hit like he did last year just to somewhat justify his contract.

    4, Do we know how well he would do playing so many more games in cold weather?

    5. He’s likely to have multiple opt outs, which of course he will only use if it’s to his advantage, as opposed to if his production falls off  after a couple years or he sustains a serious injury.

    Welcome to NSBB and thank you for the great comment!

    There is certainly a risk that Ohtani is never an elite pitcher again but should that happen, I think he starts playing the field. He's certainly athletic enough to man a corner position, either in the outfield or infield. The primary thing holding him to DH until now has been the pitching.

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    As I start letting myself believe this might actually happen, some of the things you've laid out have been bouncing around my head, plus some related stuff:

    - Assuming that Ricketts do not allow extra budget under an Ohtani scenario, I agree that we see several subsequent trades.  With Ohtani, you're basically paying for a pitcher and a hitter, but only getting one of those in 2024.  On top of that, getting Ohtani in the door is likely predicated on assurances about how competitive the team around him will be

    - Because of Ohtani's place on the roster, Jed needs to hold tightly onto the cost controlled SPs.  Given the need to shift to a 6 man rotation next year (plus the budget constraints this year), Wicks et al are more important than ever.  Conversely, with DH locked up for the next decade Jed can be pretty liberal in dealing away prospects on the wrong side of the defensive spectrum.  1B is their only path to everyday at bats at Wrigley Field in the foreseeable future

    - Given Tom Ricketts actions circa 2019-2020, I have been operating under the assumption that Jed is not allowed to cross the luxury tax 3 years in a row, with a reset in 2026 seeming most likely.  However, with Ohtani in tow payroll in 2026 would already be approximately $200M even with no other deals between now and then.  I won't pretend to know Ricketts' 5 rear plan, but I'd expect Jed to be very judicious with multi-year contracts in between Ohtani and 2027 when a ton of guys roll off to free agency.  This further points to multiple trades this winter

    The payroll stuff is what I keep coming back to.  Based on our expectations for payroll, things get really tight really quick with Ohtani on board.  Jed's otherwise been very reticent to back himself into a corner resource-wise.  Is that just the cost of doing business for bringing in a player of Ohtani's caliber, or is Ricketts finally ready to quit with the alligator arms routine?

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    Losing Bellinger is -4 wins, adding Ohtani is about +6 wins next year with him not pitching.  Ability to shift Morel to 3B might nab us an extra win, maybe 2 if things go well.  So we're up 3-4 wins.

    Then it depends what they do at 1B and CF to replace Bellinger.  Hoskins might nab us a win or 2, though we might see Morel/Mervis at 1B.  We also need to add a decent SP to replace Stroman, which makes Hoskins less likely with Ohtani due to money.

    Based on our pythag run differential last year, if we're able to sort out the bullpen it's possible we'd get over 90 wins next year.

    All told, Ohtani is replacing what we lose in Bellinger.  We're adding about 2 wins over last year plus whatever Morel can add elsewhere until Ohtani can pitch again.  That assumes the Cubs are still spending what they did on everything else last year including a TORP thus going over the CBT.  If the Cubs don't go over the CBT Ohtani doesn't add anything compared to last year, we're just moving pieces around on the board because we don't project to add too much surplus next season.  Replacing Bellinger's surplus will be difficult enough.

     

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    He singlehandedly assures the Cubs will be probably even be *the* marquee org for the league during the post-pandemic and cap era. Sure it’s just in time for a harder cap in a CBA or two but that’s been in the works and invited in for a long time anyway, won’t be so hard to manage (thank heavens) when there’s a bajillion players in the sport mostly optionable and making min or not much more

    I’d just warn anyone that if they thought cap and payroll dominated the rhetoric around Cubs baseball *before* (edit: “before” in this case being during the two half decade rebuilds directly preceding) just wait for when this almost 30+ mysterious foreigner from a foreign land comes to take all the cap space. We’re already seeing the seeds planted: alot of the pre-Ohtani convo is how he forces some like dramatic shift in roster building strategy as if that wasn’t already the case thanks to their various caps and budgets. This won’t tear down the Cubs’ mom and pop image, will be the time they splurged out of love and passion 

    Swapping Bellinger’s .356 OBP and .525 SLG for a Future inner circle HoFer who went .412/.654 in one of the AL West caverns is going to do some big things for Cubs

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    The idea of seeing his slugging numbers improve playing his home games at Wrigley should make him salivate. Signing a guy like Ohtani changes everything for this roster that generally lacks that big bat. Yes, they hit plenty of HRs (dead middle of the league, 15th, with 196), but it was because they had 6 guys hit 20-26. a 40-50 HR guy in the middle of the lineup changes the game plan for opposing pitchers

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    1 hour ago, Rex Buckingham said:

    The idea of seeing his slugging numbers improve playing his home games at Wrigley should make him salivate. Signing a guy like Ohtani changes everything for this roster that generally lacks that big bat. Yes, they hit plenty of HRs (dead middle of the league, 15th, with 196), but it was because they had 6 guys hit 20-26. a 40-50 HR guy in the middle of the lineup changes the game plan for opposing pitchers

    Just playing devil's advocate, they can get similar slugging numbers far cheaper. 

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    1 minute ago, CubinNY said:

    Pete Alonso. 

    Career wise, that's a fair answer. 2023, the difference between Ohtani and Alonso was bigger than the difference between Bellinger and Hoerner

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