Yay, he gives up :!: Because there's nothing to respond to. You rarely answer any direct points and you pull "facts" out of thin air and refuse to budge on them even when shown to be mistaken or wrong. It's like debating with a brick wall. No that's like arguing with brinoch, who suggests that theriot would be caught more often if he attempted more often. And the only thing he uses to suggest his theory is that pitcher's would pay more attention. I've seen Riot run the bases and there are very frequent pick-off attempts and I don't think anyone would argue that. brinoch on the other hand still can't support his argument, so he simply quits. :D While we don't know whether Theriot would be caught more if he attempted more (though I believe that to be true), we also don't know the other side either...that he wouldn't be caught more. So, when evaluating Theriot, we just can't add mythical steals that haven't happened. If or when he proves he can steal at the level of Reyes, then we can credit it to him. Until then, when evaluating Theriot we have to take what we have. As it is, he's not anywhere near Reyes in terms of value.