no, fleury is very good. cam ward is good too. not really. those guys reputations seem to be living on their draft status and stanley cup runs. especially fluery marc andre fluery has had only one good season. the rest of his career he's been mediocre to bad. cam ward is a pretty solid goalie now (not great), but he was atrocious during the regular season before his cup run. if we're talking about goalie matchups heading into a final, he was a worse bet than niemi. so i don't get it, are you saying that osgood sucks and niemi is good? because they're pretty similar, both put up very good numbers behind great defenses. your assessment of fleury is laughable. i never even said anything about osgood. and you can say what you want aobut my assessment of fleury, but where are the results? can you please show me? he's had exactly one good season, and one average one. and like sponge said, my friend in pittsburgh always bitches about fluery and shares the opinion that he's still living off his cup run hype. i just don't understand how you can possible call fluery a "very good" goalie when the results usually aren't there.