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Oh no. Who’s going to drop passes that hit them right in the hands now? Braunecker was just in the way of the Jesper Horsted train leaving the station. Choo Choo. All aboard.

I think the hidden powers are an average QB, which generally means inconsistent too. I was hoping he had enough to be a slightly above average QB like a Flacco or Manning still, but this year has kind of killed that hope for me. He'd have to have Manning like year 5 leap for that to happen.

Yeah, even though he had a rating in the 60's. I thought he looked as good as good as he has at any point in his career on Sunday. The INTs were whatever. Redzone INT can't happen, but it took a great play by the LB. The deep ball INTs never bother me. Sucked that there was a 50-yard return of it, but if you're going to throw picks, best time to do it is on a deep shot. I've seen criticism of the TD pass to Robinson for being short, but that was a layup pass (that he has missed before) and who cares that it was ugly, he scored. Even the RZ INT didn't bother me that much. Like, yea it sucks, but at this point, if Mitch is being aggressive and is throwing the ball past 10 yards past the LOS or more, I'm okay with some inevitable INT. Maybe I'm giving him an unfairly low bar to cleae, but that's it for me at this juncture.

Sadly even if they do that they absolutely will be missing the playoffs. I dont think there is any chance in hell of them making it this year barring a total collapse by both Minnesota and the Rams. Philly beat us but they are just as bad as us, Carolina = meh Yea in a hypothetical 10-6 pile up, their only clear tie breaker win is Minn and Seattle (who's already at 9 wins). They lose to LA and PHI... Not sure about GB. CAR iffy. Although I won't be surprised if no 10 teams make it from the NFC this year.

Sadly even if they do that they have a pretty good shot at missing the playoffs.

Crawford doesn't have much of a leg to stand on if that's his complaint. I thought it was upper body injuries.

Put the teams in dugouts below the stands. Problem solved.

The tree thing is kind of dumb anyways, but if current coaches is there any current coach who's is better than Reid? You can go all the way up to guys like Parcells, but those "trees" start to get super broad anyways, so of course there's plenty of good ones.

Also, it's weird to talk about Rivera being from the Reid coaching tree right?

You mean super bowl champion Doug Pederson?

Graduated from my Alma mater (first pro player ever from there) so I ain't even mad. He also had a really nice TD saving tackle on the earlier Robinson 60 yd catch that ended up being called back. Did u go to Naz? I live a couple blocks from there. Julian dates the girl across the street. Great kid. Yep. I've only heard great things about him.

Graduated from my Alma mater (first pro player ever from there) so I ain't even mad. He also had a really nice TD saving tackle on the earlier Robinson 60 yd catch that ended up being called back.

I saw they were down 7 with under 30 left and just assumed they would lose, so I didn't watch. Bummer. And it didn't even require Charlotte totally choking on the FTs. Zach just couldn't miss.

Game prediction I drink more beers than points scored.

Add teams to Orlando, Jacksonville, and Pensacola, the relegate all of Florida to AA.

Worst city uni yet

Its a good assumption, but he'll at least be back in training camp next year.

THE GREATEST ATHELTE EVER TO COME OUT OF PRINCETON. Seriously, what would Horsted have to do to make you believe you could go into 2020 with a Burton/Horsted/Holtz/Braunecker/etc TE group and not make a big FA signing? 24 catches for 200 yards? That's 64/533 pace.

My side is the family is doing an early Thanksgiving this Sunday. So I get to pretend the Bears will have played on three straight Thanksgivings.

I'm not sure what your conclusion is, keep Mitch or ditch mitch? I think unless you are in love with a QB that drops to you in the second round this draft, you have to use those picks to revamp the o-line.Even if Mitch continues to tank you at least have the building blocks to surround the QB who takes over after Mitch leaves, HC and GM be damned. Reaching for a QB in this draft would be a huge mistake. I think you have to ditch Mitch. While I don't think he would be as bad next year as he's been this year, he's definitely not the answer. Best case is a 2018 repeat where he figures out how to use his legs again. But I think he's lost the support of his teammates. They obviously won't say anything publicly, but you can see the body language on the field. Lackluster effort for high throws, stopping on routes when he misses them flash open, nobody moving down the field when he scrambles out of a pocket that he could have stood in. Nagy clearly can't do what he wants with the offense, and he's getting flack from the press and fans about his offense and playcalling. I just don't see Nagy being very willing to go into 2020 with his future tied to a QB that he has to dumb down his playbook for. Because after all, if Trubisky is here again and the offense struggles again with a half-filled play sheet....the offensive minded head coach is going to certainly take a lot of the heat for not having a good offense and not developing a talented QB. I don't think Pace can go to ownership after 2 bad years and say, "Hey, I built up the rest of the team, let me get 1 more shot at QB" when the QB he picked is the reason for 2 bad years. And i don't think Nagy has been good enough to survive a GM change. So if the plan is to ditch Mitch do you think there is any trade market for him? I'm not sure why this is, but according to OTC, he is cap neutral as a cut (all dead money), but would actually garner about 4M cap savings as a trade, at least. If there is literally no cap benefit to cutting him it seems highly unlikely that they'll just cut lose in March. So he'd be in camp and presumably still good enough to not get beat out by 2-3 other guys and sticking around as the backup and its the same cap effect to cut or keep.

While the Bears are far from an enviable position, the NFL is weird enough and there is enough talent still that a major rebuild seems silly. They're gonna have to role a few dice in areas, but even good teams are often patchworking solutions somewhere. They just need to identify a better glue to hold their fraying patches together. Also they have to hope guys like Leno and Burton are more "fluky bad season" than they are "stick a fork in them"

Or it can be an Al Davis/Mark Davis situation where the terrible haircutted spawn are just as bad as the father Hey, don't look now but the Raiders are semi-respectable this season. Oakland has flirted with bouts of respectability before. The bad hair equilibrium will correct itself soon enough.

Obviously he has capacity to improve, but is it "improve as a play caller or bust"? Could he just give up the part and be a successful head coach still? Going back to his short stint calling plays in KC theres a pretty established history of questioning his play calling acumen. It's enough to sink him by next year at this point if he doesn't show that improvement quickly.

As bad as Mitch has been, I'm not sure how many unquestionable upgradres there are. I think the likes of Mariota, Winston, Dalton, and Keenum would all be coming into something of a competition, even if they were lined up with starters on day 1 of training camp. Bridgewater would probably be the only realistic one of available FA. Obviously no rookie would either.

Was thinking of what could come out of Nagy... True or False: Jason Garrett is Matt Nagy's upper ceiling as a coach. Garrett was a young up and coming offensive coach who's teams were pretty average (0.500 record, 2 15th ranked scoring Os) his first two years, with a pretty good QB in Romo running things, to boot. Before his third full season he gave up the play calling reigns and now is the only O heas coach I can think of who doesn't regularly call his own plays (Reid has given up play calling to mix it up before, but regularly still calls plays). Since he handed over play calling duties they are 62-44 and have had 4 top 5 scoring offenses, including this year so far. They were division Champs 3 times as well and are on pace for a 4th in 2019. But they've also failed to make it past the divisional round. I bring this up since Nagy seems so awful as a play caller. Could he give up the reigns to that and be an effective head coach or not? I tend to say no, but was looking for examples, which is why I came up with Garret. The lack of playoff success aside, 3 or 4 division Champs in 6 years would be something the Bears haven't seen since, what the 80s? Would you be pleased with that outcome 5 or 6 years from now?