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Yea Hurts has a wide window, I think, because teams have to on some level commit to building an offense around him. He could go late first, or he drop to day 3.

I didn't love Fromm in the second, but into the mid third or so his value proposition changes a lot I think. Thing is the Bears need to move up or down to make that happen.

Agree I like the profile of both those guys. Not as crazy on Simon. Hopefully these guys have the budget to build a team around them too. Don't want one of these guys stuck with like, Jim Paxson as their number 2.

Ifedi's deal is confirmed to be the veteran salary benefit, so it won't count in the comp formula. Right now OTCs pick cancellation chart projects 3 6ths and 1 7th for the Bears next year. KPLs deal. Could be borderline 6th though. https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/ Nice. Makes me wonder if it makes him even more likely to trade away a 2021 draft pick to get a 3 or 4 this year. I almost expect it to happen For whatever Paces downfalls I do think he is going to read the draft as it comes to him and react. If he falls in love with a guy he certainly might. But he also has trade down 3 times from the 2nd round (two in one year). So maybe he trades down from 43 and picks up a late third, but also trades up from the 5th to the late 4th by dangling a pick next year (thinking that may be the range he jumps at a QB if he isn't targreting in with 43 or 50.)

I'm kind of expecting him to not count against the comp formula. They really don't have much cap space to be offering deals above the comp line. Hope you're right. The Over the Cap guy on Twitter predicted he would cancel out a pick, we'll see... Ifedi's deal is confirmed to be the veteran salary benefit, so it won't count in the comp formula. Right now OTCs pick cancellation chart projects 3 6ths and 1 7th for the Bears next year. KPLs deal. Could be borderline 6th though. https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/

So I was initially optimistic on these reports, but some reports say they are particularly interested in the Heat as a model for the FO reorganization. In which case, pessimism time: 1. Does Pax see himself as the Riley? (rofl if so) 2. Simon (the Heat guy) seems lower on the chain than some of the other candidates, he is currently an assistant GM, whereas other guys are GMs. So does Pax just see this hire as trying to recreate what he initially had with Gar, Pax as still the main visionary/architect but just a primary day to day manager to lead that vision? 3. This last point isn't too worrisome in a vacuum but combined with the Bulls attitude: the Heat operate as a pretty loyal and insular organization. They've had basically two coaches in 25 years (save a short Van Gundy stint) and when Riley stepped away from coaching the second time he hired a guy who was widely viewed as an organization yes-man. Look at the bios of the rest of their senior staff, a lot of 20+ year Heat lifers. I worry the Bulls don't see a need for a wider overhaul, but maybe just a new GM and maybe one or two new hires. I don't know the appeal of organizational stability, but in the Bulls case, they need some turnover and more drastic turnover.

I mean that article surprisingly said this FO hire could occur before play resumes again, which might be this summer? In a dream world, could Boylen have coached his last game?

There have been several reports that Pax has been the one pushing to revamp the entire FO structure. He already tried to walk away like 10 years ago and went with the "hire a stooge" role. It didn't work and he ended back up in the main role. I'm somewhat hopeful he's learned that if he goes outside the org and supports a wider FO reorganization he can actually retire to a cushy advisory role where he'll help the Reinsdorfs evaluate the new guy and that's it. And let's be honest 95% of that evaluation will be "how much playoff ticket revenue did we get?" If they're serious about the revamp, I think in the next 12-18 months they need at a minimum: A executive VP of basketball ops A general manager An assistant General Manager /head of analytics and scouting A handful of new scouts and analysts (obviously a new head coach) That would put them on par with most modern NBA FOs. And with that many new elevated hired it would quell concerns Pax or Collins insert themselves in day to day decisions. They might help lay out a vision, like a mission statement, but that carries little weight. The only part I find really annoying is Gar sticking around, even though it's supposedly just a scouting role. Wish he'd take the hint and just move on on his own if they won't just fire him. If they want to go really big, they need a new president of all operations ala like the when the Blackhawks brought in McDonough and just let someone build the entire org, but I suspect theyre happy with the non basketball ops side of things.

I don't know, shouldn't Choo administer a means test before he just gives $1,000 to everyone?

Not sure if this news was shared here, but Paxson will NOT be in charge of basketball operations for the Bulls after this season. I'm not sure if this was his call or the Reinsdorfs, but it's fantastic news for all Bulls fans. It's crazy that in 35 years, the only two people in charge were Krause and Paxson. Boylen should be fired, Forman should be demoted and/or fired and Paxson should just ride off into the sunset... We need to hire a young, progressive exec from a good modern FO. There was a rumor the Bulls are interested in Sam Presti, but I just don't see that happening, unfortunately. Let's hope this is the case. Michael, Jerry, Pax, and Doug basically being like a board of directors is probably an acceptable outcome in all this (as long as Pax and Collins are really hands off.)

So depending on the nature of the incentives that sounds like it gives the Bears some cap wiggle room, if they're not likely to be earned incentives. Though if he hits them, they will take that cap hit eventually.

Just wait for 2021. They could end up with as many as 4 comp picks, all in the 6th round! That would be like 4 late round picks in a 12-15 pick spread. I think Ifedi is going to wipe out their highest 6th round comp pick, so likely two 6ths and one 7th Still nice to accumulate some picks I'm kind of expecting him to not count against the comp formula. They really don't have much cap space to be offering deals above the comp line.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that League of Legends pros aren't athletes! With how things are going, esports might be a real sport. The Hunger Games will be our only sport soon enough.

Just wait for 2021. They could end up with as many as 4 comp picks, all in the 6th round! That would be like 4 late round picks in a 12-15 pick spread.

They still have a 4th rounder. Weird I just looked up an article and it said we only had the compensatory 4th that we ultimately traded for foles. Yea, the other 4th I think was part of the Montgomery trade last year??

Seems like there could be a good converging of need and BPA in the second and the Bears can add a G and S. But I wouldn't be mad at a QB (perhaps Hurts) in the second either. If a guy like him does start dropping, maybe you can fill a need like G at 43, drop back into the late second with a trade down at 50 to pick back up a 4th, and grab a QB with one of those picks, plus still be able to plug another hole. It would be really great to grab a developmental OT as well. Just looking ahead to next year the cap is REALLY tight and that's before they probably make some more cap adjusting moves for more space thus year. Two top candidates to clear some space on the cap will be the starting two OT. But all the good OT prospects may be gone by 43. Supposed to be a really good WR draft. Hopefully they can get a good slot receiver in the 5th who can stretch the field a little. They lack top end speed in the WR group since cutting Gabriel.

Well the Bears don't have anything from pick 50 to 163 in the 5th now. They might move around, and Pace is always game to trade future picks, but as it stands, they could miss on that tier 3 QB prospect too.

He won't be practice squad eligible again. That said, they may still be trying to trade Trubisky. Or even if they don't trade Trubisky, they still don't have a 3rd QB on the roster anywhere. And they may only carry 2, but you need at least 3 in camp and preseason. And I just found out the new CBA allows for one practice squad player with any experience level. Tyler Bray, come on down to the practice squad!

In what world does someone wait on Biggs to validate Rapaport news?

He won't be practice squad eligible again. That said, they may still be trying to trade Trubisky. Or even if they don't trade Trubisky, they still don't have a 3rd QB on the roster anywhere. And they may only carry 2, but you need at least 3 in camp and preseason.

It wasn’t but a still frame makes it look a lot worse. Still pretty bad though https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/examining-if-the-bears-mitchell-trubisky-really-did-miss-a-wide-open-td-against-the-packers/amp/ yes it was I mean definitely the fact that I wasn't quite sure is what makes that so great as a joke.

Pace loves 1st rd busts tho Based on cutting Floyd and signing Quinn apparently not.

Holy horsefeathers tell me this was photoshopped rofl. :lol:

Eh, sure if you dont like the prospect value, trade down. But trade downs from the second aren't necessarily going to give you tons of immediate depth capital. For reference, past Pace trade downs: 2016: traded down from 41 to 49 for pick 117 and a future 4th 2016: traded down from 49 to 56 for pick 126 2017: traded down from 36 to 45 for pick 119, 197, and a future 5th (they also added pick 221) Of the extra picks they got in the same year (117, 124, 119), they became Kwit (after a small trade up), Deon Bush, and Cohen. All decent picks actually, but only Cohen had a big immediate impact. Then you're maybe getting future picks which are nice but not filling depth needs now. Of course, there's always a slight chance that 4th rounder is an EJax and immediately contributes, but those aren't great odds either. If you look at actual contributions of day 3 picks, it's much more long term building blocks rather than day 1 contributors (outside of ST play). So even though they have 3 pretty big needs (RG, S, CB), if there was just 1 at those positions I liked at 43 and 50, I'd be glad to just fill only 1 or 2 of those spots.. He'll need to try and fill some immediate depth at those spots with cheaper FA.

Clinton-Dix headed to Dallas. 1Y/4M. https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/3/19/21187854/bears-free-agency-2020-ha-ha-clinton-dix-signs-cowboys-dallas-safety-redskins-packers-adrian-amos Bears are also now +5 in compensation pick formula for 2021 (max is 4) but all will be 6th or 7th rounders.