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Sad to see this. Former Cubbie Jon Leiber will probably miss the rest of the year with a ruptured tendon in his foot. There is a chance that surgery can repair it and he can be back in late Sept., but it doesnt look good. The Phils have already said Myers is still not going to be moved back to the rotation. They are debating J.A. Happ or Carlos Carrasco to take the spot in the rotation, but look to make a move for some good SP. info from Rotoworld.

what does his defensive numbers look like? :wink:

And giving credit when its due, Ohman did not suck today. On an 11 man staff he has to suck it up and get rightys out. He would have had Cesar not dropped the ball. But he did get the 2 lefties out and wasnt even close to walking anyone. Without dempster for the next few days, everyone in the pen is going to have to be on their game and the starters are going to have to pitch into the seventh for us to have a chance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AiAOOGRgzhf_oXXRD793URgRvLYF?slug=ap-melhallarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns Some of the charges carry the max of life in prison. Already had other warrants out for his arrest. If it is true, they need to put him away forever. No place for this kind of thing

Phil Collins says sweep the BlackSox? Geaux Cubbies.

Where are we going? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal Dont care if it is related to the cheating, to the uniforms, or to Ozzie Guillen's mouth, dirty is dirty and they will always be the BlackSox to me. Only one true baseball team in Chicago, and it plays on the Northside, everyone else is a pretender.

CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!!!!

I wonder if Fred can come up with the last time the Cubs scored the winning and go ahead run on a suicide squeeze was.

excellente

i think it was taken down b/c it encouraged a couple trolling incidents. also we had a pretty good feud going with one of the Cardinal boards, but that board died. And there are simply not that many indy boards for the other teams in our division. Outside of Redbird Nation, i can only think of one that i go to occasionally for Reds info.

Nice to see they are giving the kids a few lessons down on the farm. Would just hate to throw them willy nilly into the real Fight club. They might get brokened. (that is purposely misspelled at an attempt of humor) :lol:

Guzman has begun to throw again in Ariz. I am guessing that the Cubs would get Marmol into the rotation and put Guzman back in the pen when he is healthy enough.

lol we cant even agree to disagree :lol:

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070622&content_id=2042786&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws Wants more athletic players v. polished collegiate players, so he fired the Amateur Scouting Director after 35 years with the team.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2913605 Dukes has been placed on the inactive list by the DRays to take care of his off field issues. Dustin Mohr will come up from Triple A in his stead.

Hawk Harrelson leaves a great deal to desire as a baseball announcer. I will suffer as long as i can and then mute- probably about the bottom of the first. Geaux Cubbies!

And what you dont realize is that is your opinion, and not a fact. this is a myth about a myth. i linked you the word and i used it correctly. again, you do not agree, which is ok b/c its your OPINION, not a fact. either way, i wont be losing any sleep about it.

i was making a point that a bunch of you guys dont realize that its pitching and defense that win championships, not hitting. maybe overly dramatic, but its a point that needs to get across that many people believe. and just because people have differing view points btw doesnt mean you get to label anything idiotic. people agree and disagree, but this should be a realm for discussion not persecution, and defense does matter. as for you Keener, this is something abuck and i have been going thru the last few days. he is upset b/c we traded his boy Mikey and holds me personally responsible. so he is doing nothing but trying to run me down. but hey whatever.

the total is actually 5 (tree, GR, sarcastic, soul and SSR). but hey, that at least is closer than most of your comments in the realm of accuracy. Getting sick of you trying to pick fights with me...this is the 4th time in 3 days.

We disagree. First, defensive assessment is something that has not been finalized yet. The saber geeks are still working on it, although Mr James is toying with a few new formulas that he has put out over the last couple of years. So i will disagree with your assessment on run values until it can be truly quantified. Second, the Catcher position is one of the exceptions to the fielding rule. You can check the Win Shares portion of the program to see that Catchers are one of 2 positions where defensive aptitude is rewarded with higher proportions.

hey tree, havent seen you in a while... would you really want to play the same game forever though? think the Commish's office might get upset.

Really? How many games can you lose if you have perfect pitching and defense? (A: None) Hitting is not, especially for a Catcher, a players primary function.

First of all, a very eloquent posting, something that is seen not often enough on this board. Nice job. Second, while i am sure that we all have various definitions and usage of the word, i do not agree with your assesment on the definition for the use in baseball. Even within your own standards there is certain ambiguity. I would argue that the team was not getting the production it wanted from Barrett. Hendry himself said that one of the reasons the trade occurred was because of defensive purposes, which Barrett clearly did not have. Barrett also is highly paid, not only in terms of his profession but also in the fact he makes more money than the average catcher. During the offseason following, he should be able to pull down 7 or 8 million. Third point, that the contract is long term. While i do agree with this thinking and its in keeping in terms of the poem, i will also disagree. How long is long? Isnt an entire season a long time? To a Cub fan suffering for almost 100 years now and seeing another opportunity slip through our hands because of poor play, you bet it is. This summer has been brutal so far, and having to put up with Barrett's poor play behind the plate, on the basepaths and watching TV run the dugout incident every single blessed game is a big enough hindrance in my opinion to be considered within the poem. Fourth point, while you make the point that he couldnt be considered an albatross b/c he was traded and no one would want him b/c of the burdens he carried, i also disagree. I think Hendry sold low. Do you think if Barrett wouldnt have been involved in that incident that we still would have gotten just a Bowen and sandwich pick for him? Probably not. That incident made his value essentially untradeable, but not the entire husk of a man. Just as there is some value left b/c of his talent, there is also some noble value in suffering (as lo the Cub fans know) as suggested in the poem. I would submit that these are essentially the same and therefore i will have to disagree with you. Link Below to Poem and the quote we are quibbling about that started this mess: (I guess Cub baseball has now led to poetry excerpts) http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/stc/Coleridge/poems/Rime_Ancient_Mariner.html

Fixed.

Go Z, v2.0! How many brawls this weekend one wonders? If we sweep them, Ozzie's head may spin around and around. Geaux Cubbies!