Fred Hornkohl

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/4499.jpg Carlos Alberto Zambrano (3-6) ERA = 5.61, WHIP = 1.75 vs. http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/29949.jpg Madison K. Bumgarner (4-4) ERA = 3.20, WHIP = 1.24 Go CUBS !!

8-8-88--Let there be light! (And let there be rain.) As if the baseball gods themselves were voicing their displeasure. Its not rain, its just the baseball gods urinating on the Cubs, as theyve been doing for the past 102 years. Only the CUBS.

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/30515.jpg Travis A. Wood (2-1) ERA = 2.42, WHIP = 0.87 vs. http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/28710.jpg Thomas Nicklaus Diamond (0-1) ERA = 4.50, WHIP = 1.67 For those that care about such things..... this is the 22nd anniversary of the CUBS' first scheduled night game at Wrigley Field. Go CUBS !!

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To answer my own question....... CUBS record when they allow 3 or fewer runs in the game Year W L Pct 2010 30 20 .600 2009 56 20 .737 2008 57 16 .781 2007 66 10 .868 2006 41 16 .719 2005 60 12 .833 2004 66 15 .805

How may sterling pitching performances by their staff can one team waste ??

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/6401.jpg Edinson Volquez (2-1) ERA = 6.35, WHIP = 1.88 vs. http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/28943.jpg Randy David Wells (6-5) ERA = 4.40, WHIP = 1.43 Go CUBS !!

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http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/4416.jpg Bronson Anthony Arroyo (11-6) ERA = 4.01, WHIP = 1.18 vs. http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/6449.jpg Thomas Stephen Gorzelanny (6-5) ERA = 3.48, WHIP = 1.45 Go CUBS !!

Enough already !!

http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/28827.jpg Manuel Alex Parra (3-8) ERA = 5.42, WHIP = 1.68 vs. http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/mlb/players/65/3845.jpg Ryan Scott Dempster (8-8) ERA = 3.92, WHIP = 1.33 Go CUBS !!

Well.... we're 16 runs better than yesterday, eh?

Last time the CUBS pitchers got 12 Ks in a game.... Fri 16 Jul 10 (14 Ks) in a 4-3 win over Philadelphia at Wrigley Go CUBS !!

CUBS are 0-37 when they trail by 2 runs or more at the end of the 8th inning Go CUBS !!

Give me an F Give me an A Give me an K Give me an E Give me an R Give me an A Give me an L Give me an L Give me an Y What'd'ya got ??? Go CUBS, Go !!!

If Byrd looks half as good as Pat Hughes makes him sound..... he's HOF material !!!

CUBS are 0-35 when they trail by 2 runs or more at the end of the 7th inning Go CUBS !!

CUBS have been outscored in the 7th, 8th, & 9th innings combined 211-149 Go CUBS !!

Where did it hit him ?

Only the CUBS.... oh, wait............

When's the next time that Fred will miss the game thread? Don't hold your breath, eh? :wink:

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The problem with all this "Only the CUBS" mentality is that everybody is working off their "recent memory", just as erik alluded to in one of his earlier posts, without much regard for the history of game and the teams that play it. This is compounded by the fact many of you have a much shorter "recent memory" than others do. All that being said, I took some time to run some numbers, and here's what I came up with....... The CUBS have long held the moniker of "lovable losers", and I readily admit, the last 60 years or so have been pretty bleak, throughout the history of baseball, the CUBS are not anywhere near being the epitome of futility that many make them out to be. Taking the lifetime winning percentages of only the pre-expansion teams........ 1876 thru 2009 World Series team W L pct PA W L New York Yankees 9577 7294 0.568 48 27 13 San Francisco Giants 10348 8886 0.538 22 5 12 Los Angeles Dodgers 9652 8756 0.524 26 6 12 Boston Red Sox 8730 8160 0.517 20 7 4 Chicago Cubs 10165 9606 0.514 16 2 8 Cleveland Indians 8635 8269 0.511 10 2 3 St. Louis Cardinals 9239 8910 0.509 24 10 7 Pittsburgh Pirates 9524 9275 0.507 14 5 2 Chicago White Sox 8532 8339 0.506 9 3 2 Detroit Tigers 8564 8356 0.506 12 4 6 Cincinnati Reds 9420 9369 0.501 12 5 4 Atlanta Braves 9854 9883 0.499 20 3 6 Oakland A's 8151 8682 0.484 23 9 5 Minnesota Twins 8138 8748 0.482 13 3 3 Baltimore Orioles 8011 8843 0.475 11 3 4 Philadelphia Phillies 9008 10168 0.470 12 2 5 ....... the CUBS come in 5th. That's top third of the pack. Yeah, I know they haven't made it to the World Series as often as the fans would hope, but hey, being in the top third ain't chopped liver !! Below are what I consider to be the 50 worst seasons ever compiled in major league baseball (* denotes expansion teams).............. Team W L Pct 1890 Pittsburgh Pirates 23 113 0.169 1897 St. Louis Cardinals 29 102 0.221 1916 Philadelphia As 36 117 0.235 1935 Boston Braves 38 115 0.248 1962 * New York Mets 40 120 0.250 1904 Washington Senators 38 113 0.252 1898 St. Louis Cardinals 39 111 0.260 2003 Detroit Tigers 43 119 0.265 1952 Pittsburgh Pirates 41 112 0.268 1939 St. Louis Browns 41 111 0.270 1909 Washington Senators 42 110 0.276 1942 Philadelphia Phillies 42 109 0.278 1932 Boston Red Sox 43 111 0.279 1941 Philadelphia Phillies 43 111 0.279 1928 Philadelphia Phillies 43 109 0.283 1915 Philadelphia As 43 109 0.283 1911 Boston Braves 44 107 0.291 1909 Boston Braves 45 108 0.294 1911 St. Louis Browns 45 107 0.296 1939 Philadelphia Phillies 45 106 0.298 1945 Philadelphia Phillies 46 108 0.299 1937 St. Louis Browns 46 108 0.299 1937 Philadelphia As 46 108 0.299 1938 Philadelphia Phillies 45 105 0.300 1926 Boston Red Sox 46 107 0.301 1910 St. Louis Browns 47 107 0.305 1961 Philadelphia Phillies 47 107 0.305 1965 * New York Mets 50 112 0.309 1920 Philadelphia As 48 106 0.312 1963 * New York Mets 51 111 0.315 2004 * Arizona Diamondbacks 51 111 0.315 1906 Boston Red Sox 49 105 0.318 1969 * Montreal Expos 52 110 0.321 1969 * San Diego Padres 52 110 0.321 1940 Philadelphia Phillies 50 103 0.327 1996 Detroit Tigers 53 109 0.327 1964 * New York Mets 53 109 0.327 1979 * Toronto Blue Jays 53 109 0.327 1917 Pittsburgh Pirates 51 103 0.331 1998 * Florida Marlins 54 108 0.333 1979 Oakland As 54 108 0.333 1977 * Toronto Blue Jays 54 107 0.335 1988 Baltimore Orioles 54 107 0.335 1976 * Montreal Expos 55 107 0.340 2002 * Tampa Bay Devilrays 55 106 0.342 2002 Detroit Tigers 55 106 0.342 2003 * Texas Rangers 56 106 0.346 1970 Chicago white sox 56 106 0.346 2005 * Kansas City Royals 56 106 0.346 1973 * Washington Senators 57 105 0.352 Notice the complete absence of the Chicago CUBS from this list. The CUBS have been bad far too often for our tastes, but they are rarely epically bad. In fact, in their 134 year existence they have only had 2 seasons with as many as 100 losses. Here's a listing of all the franchises and the number of 100 loss seasons they've had........ Team # Houston Astros 0 Los Angeles/Anaheim 0 Colorado Rockies 0 Cincinnati Reds 1 New York/San Francisco 1 Florida Marlins 1 Arizona Diamondbacks 1 Milwaukee Brewers 1 CUBS 2 New York Yankees 2 Brooklyn/Los Angeles 2 Chicago white sox 3 Toronto Bluejays 3 Tampa Bay Devilrays 3 Montreal/Washington 4 Seattle Mariners 4 St. Louis Cardinals 4 Kansas City Royals 4 Cleveland Indians 5 San Diego Padres 5 New York Mets 6 Washington/Minnesota 6 Washington/Texas 6 Detroit Tigers 6 Pittsburgh Pirates 7 Boston Red Sox 7 Milwaukee/St. Louis/Baltimore 10 Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta 13 Philadelphia Philllies 14 Philadelphia/K.C./Oakland 17 Hey, what do you know ??? In the top third again !! What about prolonged periods of suckage ? Well, I considered that, too. The following is a listing of the worst decade of baseball committed by each of the franchises.......... Years Team W L Pct 1936-1945 Philadelphia Phillies 511 1016 0.335 1904-1913 Boston Braves 539 982 0.354 1923-1932 Boston Red Sox 544 988 0.355 1937-1946 Philadelphia As 549 983 0.358 1901-1910 Washington Senators (Twins) 549 936 0.370 1946-1955 St. Louis Browns 576 963 0.374 1904-1913 St. Louis Cardinals 592 930 0.389 1904-1913 Brooklyn Dodgers 594 924 0.391 1998-2007 Tampa Bay Devilrays 645 972 0.399 1996-2005 Detroit Tigers 652 966 0.403 1969-1978 San Diego Padres 651 959 0.404 1962-1971 New York Mets 660 957 0.408 1677-1686 Seattle Mariners 641 924 0.410 1997-2006 Kansas City Royals 666 951 0.412 1925-1934 Cincinnati Red 649 903 0.418 1961-1970 Washington Senators (Rangers) 677 936 0.420 2000-2009 Pittsburgh Pirates 681 936 0.421 1926-1935 Chicago white sox 643 881 0.422 1957-1966 CUBS 680 900 0.430 1969-1978 Milwaukee Brewers 707 905 0.439 1962-1971 Houston Astros 710 908 0.439 1983-1992 Cleveland Indians 711 909 0.439 2000-2009 Montreal/Washington 711 908 0.439 1908-1917 New York Yankees 686 838 0.450 1977-1986 Toronto Blue Jays 711 850 0.455 1997-2006 Colorado Rockies 745 875 0.460 1968-1977 Anaheim Angels 744 868 0.462 1976-1985 San Francisco Giants 734 834 0.468 1998-2007 Florida Marlins 758 861 0.468 2000-2009 Arizona Diamondbacks 805 815 0.497 Didn't quite make the top one third on this list..... but we're close. Look, I realize that this is unscientific, cherry picked, random, arbitrary and incorrigible, but it should make the point that if you wanted to demonstrate some real hardcore suckage in baseball you could find some teams that are a whole lot worse than the CUBS. Only the CUBS ??? NOT !!

I hope that's not Latin for boner !! :wink: There's a reason I didn't say raise. Indeed !!

I hope that's not Latin for boner !! :wink: