Fred Hornkohl

On WGN's SportsCentral a while ago, the said that Murton would be starting today.... but didn't give the whole lineup.

Although you may be trying to be negative, this is probably true. We could be the worst baseball team ever. That's really overly harsh. My vote for worst ball team of all times goes to the Phildelphia Fultilities...... 1876 thru 2004 World Series team W L pct PA W L New York Yankees 9099 6962 0.567 44 26 13 San Francisco Giants 9966 8460 0.541 22 5 12 Los Angeles Dodgers 9232 8366 0.525 23 6 12 Chicago Cubs 9756 9208 0.514 14 2 8 Boston Red Sox 8263 7817 0.514 16 6 4 Pittsburgh Pirates 9193 8797 0.511 14 5 2 Cleveland Indians 8222 7872 0.511 9 2 3 St. Louis Cardinals 8801 8539 0.508 21 9 7 Detroit Tigers 8150 7959 0.506 11 4 5 Chicago White Sox 8104 7957 0.505 7 2 2 Cincinnati Reds 9043 8936 0.503 12 5 4 Atlanta Braves 9443 9484 0.499 19 3 6 Oakland A's 7744 8280 0.483 22 9 5 Minnesota Twins 7705 8370 0.479 11 3 3 Baltimore Orioles 7666 8379 0.478 11 3 4 Philadelphia Phillies 8561 9816 0.466 9 1 4

Wow. You never cease to amaze me Fred. Ya know, sometimes I even surprise myself ! :wink: mhuber92211 asked me if I could find a way to track such things..... and by golly, I figured it out. Ahem...I believe that was me 8) But anyway...have you come up with something terms of strength of the streak, or is it just the Cubs chances after a win or after a loss? Sherwood.... yes, indeed that was you. Forgive me for my "senior moment" there. :wink: not sure how you would define the strength of a streak, I'm just taking the CUBS' W/L record after a win, after 2 wins, after 3 wins...... and coversely after a loss, 2 losses...... etc, etc. W L pct after 9 losses 0 0 0.000 after 8 losses 1 0 1.000 after 7 losses 1 1 0.500 after 6 losses 0 2 0.000 after 5 losses 0 2 0.000 after 4 losses 1 2 0.333 after 3 losses 2 3 0.400 after 2 losses 7 5 0.583 after 1 loss 5 12 0.294 First game 1 0 1.000 after 1 win 14 4 0.778 after 2 wins 6 8 0.429 after 3 wins 3 3 0.500 after 4 wins 2 1 0.667 after 5 wins 1 0 1.000 after 6 wins 1 0 1.000 after 7 wins 0 1 0.000 after 8 wins 0 0 0.000 after 9 wins 0 0 0.000 after 10 wins 0 0 0.000

Plenty of opportunities left, just pick your spot !! Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter 91 Sun 07/17 Pittsburgh - Zambrano 96 Fri 07/22 @ St. Louis N - Zambrano 101 Wed 07/27 San Francisco - Zambrano 106 Tue 08/02 @ Philadelphia N - Zambrano 111 Sun 08/07 @ New York - Zambrano 116 Fri 08/12 St. Louis - Zambrano 121 Wed 08/17 @ Houston N - Zambrano 126 Tue 08/23 Atlanta N - Zambrano 131 Mon 08/29 Los Angeles N - Zambrano 136 Sun 09/04 @ Pittsburgh - Zambrano 141 Fri 09/09 @ San Francisco N - Zambrano 146 Wed 09/14 Cincinnati N - Zambrano 151 Tue 09/20 @ Milwaukee N - Zambrano 156 Sun 09/25 Houston - Zambrano 161 Sat 10/01 @ Houston N - Zambrano

Oh, I don't know.... they seem pretty offensive to me ! :wink:

Hey. Mizzou..... you could do worse !! I mean, think of it this way.... you're not having to watch Leicester, Dempster, Rusch, Mitre, or Koronka start, right ?? Yeah, I've seen such Cubs legends as Jim Bullinger, Jeremi Gonzalez and Anthony Young pitch live! Maddux is a HOF'er! Ah... the stories I could tell you about Bob Buhl, Larry Jackson, Dick Ellsworth, Cal Koonce, Bill Faul..... oh, never mind. It's not worth the stroll down memory lane.

Hey. Mizzou..... you could do worse !! I mean, think of it this way.... you're not having to watch Leicester, Dempster, Rusch, Mitre, or Koronka start, right ??

thats one of the things that always confuses me- all the (seemingly) random letters. i know some of the more basic ones but others ive forgotten, or never knew. is there like a baseball glossary of some kind online? along with whats quoted above, whats WHIP, LHIP, RHIP or whatever? and anything else you'd like to throw in OPS is slugging plus on base percentage (OBP). I think you calculate OBP by: walks plus hits/PA(plate apperances) OBP = ( H + BB + HBP ) / ( AB + BB + HBP + SF ) SLG = TB / AB TB (total bases) = H + 2b + ( 3b * 2 ) + ( HR * 3 ) OPS = OBP + SLG

With runners at first, first & second, or first, second & third and 0 or 1 outs, when a batter pops the ball up to the infield or to the outfield where an infielder can easily make the catch facing the infield, the batter is called out automatically. The reason is so that the fielder cannot "accidentily" drop the ball on purpose and then get a double play. The double play could occur because the runners will not be running. So, even if the fielder drops the ball, the batter is still out. The runners can advance at their own risk after the call/catch is made. If any of this is incorrect, please fix it. Thanks. I don't believe the infield fly rule applies when there is only a runner on first, it's when there are runners on 1st & 2nd, or bases loaded. The batter is never out "automatically", it is a judgement call on the part of the umpire as to whether the fielder could have reasonably made the play.

That was Sat 23 Apr, and you are quite correct. Maddux also pitched very well against the Pirates the weekend before that, Sun 17 Apr, in Pittsburgh, going 6 innings and giving up 2 earned runs. He left the game with a 2-2 tie, and Wuertz picked up the win in relief when the CUBS scored 2 in the 8th to make the final 4-2.

iirc, he threw 2 complete games in a row - the first was a shutout - and went 8 innings in his 3rd start after the break. edit: i checked retrosheet. 1st start: 7/17 vs mil (sheets) CG shutout, game time: 2:05 2nd start: 7/22 vs cin (lidle) CG, 2 er (both solo homers), game time: 2:15 3rd start: 7/27 @ mil (sheets) 6ip 1er (solo homer) Here's what I got...... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter IP ER Pit 90 Sat 07/17 Milwaukee 5- 0 Maddux 9.0 0 103 95 Thu 07/22 Cincinnati 13- 2 Maddux 9.0 2 92 100 Tue 07/27 @ Milwaukee N 7- 1 Maddux 6.0 1 79 105 Sun 08/01 Philadelphia 6- 3 Maddux 6.0 2 87 110 Sat 08/07 @ San Francisco 8- 4 Maddux 5.0 4 82 115 Fri 08/13 Los Angeles 1- 8 Maddux 6.3 2 98 120 Thu 08/19 @ Milwaukee 9- 6 Maddux 7.0 4 96 126 Wed 08/25 Milwaukee 4- 2 Maddux 8.0 1 84 131 Mon 08/30 @ Montreal N 5- 2 Maddux 7.0 0 102 136 Wed 09/08 Montreal N 0- 6 Maddux 7.7 2 106 141 Mon 09/13 Pittsburgh N 7- 2 Maddux 7.0 0 92 146 Sat 09/18 @ Cincinnati N 5- 6 Maddux 6.0 6 80 152 Thu 09/23 @ Pittsburgh 6- 3 Maddux 6.0 3 74 157 Tue 09/28 Cincinnati N 3- 8 Maddux 5.0 6 86 162 Sun 10/03 Atlanta 10- 8 Maddux 6.0 6 95

To make the analogy complete they would be swept by a Wild Card team. This is where the Cubs come in. :D I like the way you think, NCCF !! :wink:

Hollandsworth just may be starting to tank again. I know it's only 4 games, but this doesn't look good. Hollandsworth AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 04/04 - 05/31 104 3 21 5 1 1 31 9 10 26 0.202 0.278 0.298 0.576 06/01 - 07/08 97 14 35 8 1 4 57 20 4 10 0.361 0.379 0.588 0.966 07/09 - 07/15 11 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0.091 0.091 0.091 0.182 Overall 212 18 57 13 2 5 89 29 14 38 0.269 0.314 0.420 0.734

I know you're just doing that negative thing..... but these last five games have been pretty impressive to me. We've outscored the opponents 42-12 !! Take a look at these stat lines...... 07/08 - 07/15 AB R H 2b 3b HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS CUBS 181 42 62 21 0 7 104 41 21 27 0.343 0.411 0.575 0.985 Oppt 155 12 26 5 1 5 48 12 15 34 0.168 0.241 0.310 0.551 07/08 - 07/15 IP H R ER BB K HR BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA CUBS 45.0 26 12 11 15 34 5 3.00 6.80 1.00 0.91 2.20 Oppt 43.0 62 42 41 21 27 7 4.40 5.65 1.47 1.93 8.58

Wow. You never cease to amaze me Fred. Ya know, sometimes I even surprise myself ! :wink: mhuber92211 asked me if I could find a way to track such things..... and by golly, I figured it out.

Maddux's first start after the break last year was on Sat 17 July at Wrigley Field vs. Milwaukee. CUBS won 5-0 on a complete game 6 hitter (103 pitches) by Mr. Maddux.

Here's my collection of worthless stats of the day for Saturday..... CUBS are 7-7 on Saturdays CUBS are 7-2 vs. Pittsburgh CUBS are 24-23 in the day time. CUBS are 23-21 at home. CUBS are 27-17 when they've won the previous game.... 17-27 after a loss CUBS are 1-0 when they've won their previous 5 games CUBS are 7-4 when the temperature is 85 degree or above CUBS are 36-12 when they get a quality start,... 9-32 when they don't CUBS are 15-28 when the opponent gets a quality start.... 30-16 when they don't CUBS are 37-17 when they throw less than 17 pitchers per inning.... 8-27 when they don't CUBS are 13-12 in one run games, 8-5 in two run games. CUBS are 28-14 when they score first,.... 17-30 when they don't CUBS are 13-5 when they score in the first inning,... 32-39 when they don't CUBS have been outscored 42-35 in the first inning..... outscored 33-24 in the 9th CUBS are 10-9 when Maddux starts Maddux is 11 of 19 in quality starts Maddux's ERA pitching to Barrett is 4.78.... pitching to Blanco it's 4.36 CUBS score 4.61 R/G overall.... 5.26 R/G when Maddux pitches CUBS hit 1.27 HR/G overall.... 1.42 HR/G when Maddux pitches CUBS' offensive support of Maddux..... 04/04 - 07/15 AB R H 2b 3b HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS CUBS w/Maddux 685 100 199 47 1 27 329 94 58 110 0.291 0.346 0.480 0.826 CUBS overall 3072 410 836 182 13 113 1383 392 230 529 0.272 0.323 0.450 0.773 Maddux's last five starts..... Maddux IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA 07/10 vs. Flor 8.0 4 0 0 0 3 0 98 0.00 3.38 0.00 0.50 0.00 07/05 vs. Atla 6.0 8 5 5 1 6 0 86 1.50 9.00 0.00 1.50 7.50 06/30 vs. Milw 5.0 10 6 6 1 2 1 88 1.80 3.60 1.80 2.20 10.80 06/25 vs. CWS 6.0 5 2 2 0 6 2 88 0.00 9.00 3.00 0.83 3.00 06/20 vs. Milw 6.0 7 3 3 3 2 1 98 4.50 3.00 1.50 1.67 4.50 5 game totals 31.0 34 16 16 5 19 4 458 1.45 5.52 1.16 1.26 4.65 Maddux splits..... Maddux IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA Home 49.7 58 31 29 9 29 7 703 1.63 5.26 1.27 1.35 5.26 Road 66.0 70 32 31 11 43 9 958 1.50 5.86 1.23 1.23 4.23 Day 72.3 81 40 37 10 37 10 1023 1.24 4.60 1.24 1.26 4.60 Nite 43.3 47 23 23 10 35 6 638 2.08 7.27 1.25 1.32 4.78 season totals 115.7 128 63 60 20 72 16 1661 1.56 5.60 1.24 1.28 4.67 CUBS vs. Pittsburgh season series...... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter 10 Fri 04/15 @ Pittsburgh N 5- 8 Zambrano 11 Sat 04/16 @ Pittsburgh N 4- 3 Dempster 12 Sun 04/17 @ Pittsburgh 4- 2 Maddux 17 Sat 04/23 Pittsburgh 3- 4 Maddux 18 Sun 04/24 Pittsburgh 5- 2 Wood 37 Tue 05/17 @ Pittsburgh N 4- 3 Prior 38 Wed 05/18 @ Pittsburgh 3- 2 Rusch 88 Thu 07/14 Pittsburgh 5- 1 Prior 89 Fri 07/15 Pittsburgh 11- 1 Wood 90 Sat 07/16 Pittsburgh - Maddux 91 Sun 07/17 Pittsburgh - Zambrano 134 Fri 09/02 @ Pittsburgh N - Wood 135 Sat 09/03 @ Pittsburgh - Maddux 136 Sun 09/04 @ Pittsburgh - Zambrano 157 Tue 09/27 Pittsburgh N - Williams 158 Wed 09/28 Pittsburgh - Prior CUBS hitters vs. Pittsburgh..... CUBS AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Grieve 2 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 Perez 27 6 16 5 0 2 27 8 2 1 0.593 0.600 1.000 1.600 Walker 8 1 2 1 0 1 6 2 1 0 0.250 0.333 0.750 1.083 Lee 35 5 13 4 0 2 23 7 2 6 0.371 0.395 0.657 1.052 Fontenot 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.000 1.000 0.000 1.000 Ramirez 28 6 7 2 0 2 15 6 5 5 0.250 0.364 0.536 0.899 Hollandsworth 13 1 4 0 1 0 6 1 2 3 0.308 0.438 0.462 0.899 Hairston 29 5 8 2 0 1 13 5 2 2 0.276 0.344 0.448 0.792 Blanco 8 1 2 2 0 0 4 2 0 1 0.250 0.250 0.500 0.750 Burnitz 32 5 7 1 1 1 13 3 5 7 0.219 0.324 0.406 0.731 Dubois 16 1 3 1 0 1 7 3 1 6 0.188 0.235 0.438 0.673 Garciaparra 9 2 2 1 0 0 3 1 2 0 0.222 0.333 0.333 0.667 Macias 8 0 2 0 0 0 2 1 1 0 0.250 0.300 0.250 0.550 Patterson 23 5 4 0 0 1 7 1 1 8 0.174 0.208 0.304 0.513 Cedeno 4 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0.250 0.250 0.250 0.500 Barrett 23 3 4 1 0 0 5 1 3 1 0.174 0.259 0.217 0.477 Murton 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 vs. Pitts 291 44 82 21 2 11 140 44 30 46 0.282 0.348 0.481 0.829 overall 3072 410 836 184 14 112 1384 392 230 529 0.272 0.327 0.451 0.777 CUBS' pitchers vs. Pittsburgh..... CUBS IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA Wuertz 4.0 3 0 0 2 2 0 59 4.50 4.50 0.00 1.25 0.00 Ohman 0.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Bartosh 0.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Rusch 11.0 10 2 2 8 10 0 187 6.55 8.18 0.00 1.64 1.64 Prior 15.0 9 4 3 4 16 2 216 2.40 9.60 1.20 0.87 1.80 Wood 11.0 5 3 3 3 13 1 151 2.45 10.64 0.82 0.73 2.45 Maddux 14.0 9 4 4 1 6 0 173 0.64 3.86 0.00 0.71 2.57 Dempster 9.0 7 3 3 5 6 1 144 5.00 6.00 1.00 1.33 3.00 Fox 2.7 3 1 1 2 5 0 49 6.75 16.88 0.00 1.88 3.38 Hawkins 4.0 3 2 2 3 2 1 60 6.75 4.50 2.25 1.50 4.50 Remlinger 2.7 3 2 2 0 0 0 48 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.13 6.75 Zambrano 6.0 6 5 5 2 5 3 108 3.00 7.50 4.50 1.33 7.50 vs. Pitts 80.0 59 26 25 30 65 8 1198 3.38 7.31 0.90 1.11 2.81 overall 790.3 740 396 376 321 690 107 13008 3.66 7.86 1.22 1.34 4.28 Go CUBS !!

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING Rusch in to pitch for the CUBS Sanchez grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3 Hill, pinch hitting for Grabow, singled to left field C Wilson struck out swinging Ward popped out to first base 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 4 0 CUBS 0 3 3 0 0 5 0 0 x 11 16 1 CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! W: Wood (3-2) S: none L: Fogg (4-5) T: 2:27 A: 39,512 Home runs: Pittsburgh: Castillo (7) CUBS: Ramirez (20), Hairston (4) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Wood 6.0 2 1 1 0 5 1 75 Wuertz 1.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 15 Remlinger 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11 Rusch 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 12

BOTTOM OF THE EIGHTH INNING Mesa in to pitch for Pittsburgh Grieve, pinch hitting for Remlinger, singled to center field Grieve took second base on a wild pitch Hairston popped out to third base Mesa ejected by the HP umpire, Vogelsong in to pitch for Pittsburgh Walker popped out (foul) to third base Lee grounded an IF single to shortstop, Grieve to third Murton, pinch hitting for Burnitz, struck out swinging 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 CUBS 0 3 3 0 0 5 0 0 11 16 1 Home runs: Pittsburgh: Castillo (7) CUBS: Ramirez (20), Hairston (4)

TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING Remlinger in to pitch for the CUBS J Wilson grounded out to second, 4-3 Mackowiak grounded out to first, unassisted Restovich flied out to center field 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 CUBS 0 3 3 0 0 5 0 11 14 1 Home runs: Pittsburgh: Castillo (7) CUBS: Ramirez (20), Hairston (4) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Wood 6.0 2 1 1 0 5 1 75 Wuertz 1.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 15 Remlinger 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11

BOTTOM OF THE SEVENTH INNING Restovich in at rf (1st) for Pittsburgh Macias, pinch hitting for Ramirez, singled to center field Hollandsworth popped out to second base Cedeno, pinch hitting for Perez, grounded an IF single to third, Macias to second Barrett lined into a DP, 6-4, Macias doubled off second 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 CUBS 0 3 3 0 0 5 0 11 14 1 Home runs: Pittsburgh: Castillo (7) CUBS: Ramirez (20), Hairston (4)

TOP OF THE SEVENTH INNING Wuertz in to pitch for the CUBS C Wilson walked Ward grounded into a DP, 6-4, C Wilson out at second Castillo doubled to left field Doumit grounded out to first, unassisted 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 CUBS 0 3 3 0 0 5 11 12 1 Home runs: Pittsburgh: Castillo (7) CUBS: Ramirez (20), Hairston (4) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Wood 6.0 2 1 1 0 5 1 75 Wuertz 1.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 15

CUBS are 5-0 when they score 11 or more runs. Go CUBS !!

BOTTOM OF THE SIXTH INNING Ramirez singled to right center field Hollandsworth blooped a single to left field, Ramirez to second Perez doubled down the right field line, Ramirez scored, Hollandsworth to third Barrett walked (intentionally) Wood flied out to center field, runners holding Hairston homered to left field, Hollandsworth, Perez & Barrett scored Walker doubled (ground rule) to left center field Lee grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3 Grabow in to pitch (3rd), Mackowiak in at cf (9th) for Pittsburgh Burnitz popped out to second base 5 runs, 5 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Pittsburgh 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 CUBS 0 3 3 0 0 5 11 12 1 Home runs: Pittsburgh: Castillo (7) CUBS: Ramirez (20), Hairston (4)

CUBS are 28-12 when they make at least 10 hits, 16-32 when they don't. CUBS are 20-10 when they hit at least 2 HRs, 24-34 when they don't Go CUBS !!!