Fred Hornkohl

Was that the last at-bat, this one, or his next one? Yes. :wink:

Murton grounded out to third, 5-3

Jones struck out swinging

helluva lot better than Monday, no?

TOP OF THE FOURTH INNING Edmonds struck out swinging Rolen flied out to right center field Schumaker grounded to short, safe at first on a fielding error, E6 Molina flied out to left field 0 runs, 0 hits, 1 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 CUBS 0 0 0 0 3 1 pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Zambrano 4.0 3 0 0 1 1 0 56

Schumaker grounded to short, safe at first on a fielding error, E6

Edmonds struck out swinging Rolen flied out to right center field

Willie Smith

BOTTOM OF THE THIRD INNING Zambrano struck out (bunting) Pierre grounded out second, 4-3 Walker walked Lee singled to center field, Walker to second Ramirez flied out to left field 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 0 0 3 0 CUBS 0 0 0 0 3 0

Lee singled to center field, Walker to second

TOP OF THE THIRD INNING Carpenter grounded out to second, 4-3 Eckstein grounded out to third, 5-3 Rodriguez grounded an IF single to second base Pujols grounded into a FC, 6-4, Rodriguez out at second 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 0 0 3 0 CUBS 0 0 0 2 0 pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Zambrano 3.0 3 0 0 1 0 0 44

BOTTOM OF THE SECOND INNING Murton grounded out to third, 5-3 Cedeno grounded out to third, 5-3 Blanco lined out to third base 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 0 2 0 CUBS 0 0 0 2 0

TOP OF THE SECOND INNING Schumaker singled to left field Schumaker caught stealing, 2-6 Molina popped out (foul) to first base Miles grounded out to second, 4-3 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 0 2 0 CUBS 0 0 2 0 pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Zambrano 2.0 2 0 0 1 0 0 27

BOTTOM OF THE FIRST INNING Pierre singled to second base Walker flied out to left field, Pierre holding first Lee singled to right center field, Pierre to third Ramirez struck out swinging, Lee stole second base Jones struck out swinging 0 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 1 0 CUBS 0 0 2 0

TOP OF THE FIRST INNING Eckstein grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3 Rodriguez blooped a double down the left field line Pujols walked Edmonds flied out to center field, Rodriguez to third, Pujols holding first Rolen flied out to right center field 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 1 0 CUBS . 0 0 0 pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Zambrano 1.0 1 0 0 1 0 0 20

Rodriguez blooped a double down the left field line

Eckstein grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3

well, blanco almost always hit 8th when he played last year. i don't think this suggests that dusty believes the 2 hole is suited for anyone but the second baseman. True, but so did Barrett, right? No, Barrett hit 8th a little less than half of the time....... Barrett AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS batting 4th 12 4 4 2 0 0 6 0 1 1 0.333 0.429 0.500 0.929 batting 5th 56 10 19 5 1 3 35 10 9 4 0.339 0.431 0.625 1.056 batting 6th 89 9 34 9 0 5 58 18 8 14 0.382 0.439 0.652 1.090 batting 7th 70 3 10 3 1 1 18 2 7 13 0.143 0.221 0.257 0.478 batting 8th 191 23 48 10 1 6 78 31 13 27 0.251 0.305 0.408 0.713 batting 9th 6 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 1 2 0.333 0.500 0.333 0.833 overall 424 49 117 29 3 15 197 61 39 61 0.276 0.343 0.465 0.808

well, blanco almost always hit 8th when he played last year. i don't think this suggests that dusty believes the 2 hole is suited for anyone but the second baseman. 2005 Starting #2 batters......... player # starts Hollandsworth 3 Patterson 18 Walker 61 Cedeno 6 Hairston 6 Macias 2 Perez 64 Wilson 1 Lawton 1

I didn't want to start a big thing here...but I'm assuming you were saying that the reason Neifi hit 2nd yesterday was because he didn't want to put that kind of pressure on Ronny or Murton. Aside from the fact that he could've still hit Barrett 2nd yesterday if that was his intent, what would you say Dusty's reasoning was for hitting Neifi second so much last year, when he wouldn't have been worried about putting pressure on the young guns... I can't really answer that any better than anybody else here. We don't for sure; we are all just guessing. My point is, that unlike a good percentage of the poseters here, I don't believe that Dusty believes that Neifi is the right guy for hitting at the top of the order. I believe, rather, that Dusty thinks of Neifi as the least of several bad options to bat at the top of the order. In the case of Barrett, he didn't hit 1 or 2 at all last year, and only very sparingly the year before. I think that Dusty views him as not being a candidate for the top of the order. I certainly don't agree with that, but I think that is what Dusty thinks. Dusty will use Hairston at the top of the order, and did last year, almost as oftern as he did with Neifi, but remember, it took injuries and/or a demotion to the minors (Patterson) to even get Hairston into the lineup at all.

What about all the times he did it last year when they weren't around? I'm really not sure what you're asking here.

OK. So Blanco isn't in the 6 hole. Good. On the other hand, since this suggests that Dusty isn't dead set on keeping the positions hitting in the same spot (i.e. 2B must hit 2nd, or the ridiculousness of batting Sammy's replacements 3rd in 2003), does it mean that Dusty thinks that Neifi is suited to the 2 hole? I don't even know what to say about that. I think what it really says in that Dusty doesn't want to put that kind of pressure on either Murton or Cedeno right now.

Here's some worthless stats of the day for Saturday........ CUBS are 10-16 on Saturdays CUBS are 10-6 vs. St. Louis CUBS are 41-44 in the day time. CUBS are 38-43 at home. CUBS are 65-44 when their starter goes at least 6 innings... 14-39 when he doesn't CUBS are 42-64 when the opponent's starter goes at least 6 innings.... 37-19 when he doesn't CUBS are 61-29 when they get a quality start,... 18-54 when they don't CUBS are 29-56 when the opponent gets a quality start.... 50-26 when they don't CUBS are 20-13 when Zambrano starts Zambrano is 22 of 33 in quality starts Zambrano's ERA pitching to Barrett is 3.27.... pitching to Blanco 3.47 CUBS score 4.34 R/G overall.... 4.79 R/G when Zambrano pitches CUBS hit 1.20 HR/G overall.... 0.94 HR/G when Zambrano pitches CUBS' offensive support of Zambrano....... 04/04 - 10/02 AB R H 2b 3b HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS CUBS overall 5585 703 1506 322 23 194 2456 674 419 920 0.270 0.324 0.440 0.764 CUBS w/Zambrano 1163 158 328 76 9 32 518 153 82 192 0.282 0.333 0.445 0.778 Zambrano positively owned St Louis last year, going 3-0 in four starts....... Zambrano IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA 04/20 vs. St. L 8.7 5 1 1 1 3 1 118 1.04 3.12 1.04 0.69 1.04 07/22 vs. St. L 9.0 3 1 1 0 12 1 118 0.00 12.00 1.00 0.33 1.00 08/12 vs. St. L 6.0 6 0 0 1 5 0 96 1.50 7.50 0.00 1.17 0.00 09/18 vs. St. L 9.0 10 4 2 1 1 1 125 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.22 2.00 total vs. St. L 32.7 24 6 4 3 21 3 457 0.83 5.79 0.83 0.83 1.10 overall 223.3 170 88 81 86 202 21 3564 3.47 8.14 0.85 1.15 3.26 The season series against the Cardinals (2006)....... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter 3 Fri 04/07 St. Louis 5- 1 Maddux 4 Sat 04/08 St. Louis - Zambrano 5 Sun 04/09 St. Louis N - Marshall 15 Fri 04/21 @ St. Louis N - Rusch 16 Sat 04/22 @ St. Louis - Maddux 17 Sun 04/23 @ St. Louis - Zambrano 53 Fri 06/02 @ St. Louis N - 54 Sat 06/03 @ St. Louis N - 55 Sun 06/04 @ St. Louis - 101 Thu 07/27 St. Louis N - 102 Fri 07/28 St. Louis - 103 Sat 07/29 St. Louis - 104 Sun 07/30 St. Louis - 121 Fri 08/18 St. Louis - 122 Sat 08/19 St. Louis - 123 Sun 08/20 St. Louis - 128 Fri 08/25 @ St. Louis N - 129 Sat 08/26 @ St. Louis N - 130 Sun 08/27 @ St. Louis - .... and 2005....... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter 15 Wed 04/20 @ St. Louis N 3- 1 Zambrano 16 Thu 04/21 @ St. Louis 0- 4 Dempster 96 Fri 07/22 @ St. Louis N 1- 2 Zambrano 97 Sat 07/23 @ St. Louis 6- 5 Williams 98 Sun 07/24 @ St. Louis N 8- 4 Prior 115 Thu 08/11 St. Louis 11- 4 Maddux 116 Fri 08/12 St. Louis 4- 1 Zambrano 117 Sat 08/13 St. Louis 2- 5 Williams 118 Sun 08/14 St. Louis N 5- 4 Prior 137 Mon 09/05 @ St. Louis 4- 6 Prior 138 Tue 09/06 @ St. Louis N 5- 2 Rusch 139 Wed 09/07 @ St. Louis N 2- 1 Maddux 147 Thu 09/15 St. Louis N 1- 6 Prior 148 Fri 09/16 St. Louis 5- 3 Rusch 149 Sat 09/17 St. Louis 1- 5 Maddux 150 Sun 09/18 St. Louis 7- 4 Zambrano Last year's CUBS offense against St. Louis (2005)...... vs. St. L AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Lee 56 15 22 6 0 6 46 12 14 6 0.393 0.514 0.821 1.336 Ramirez 35 7 13 2 0 3 24 9 4 2 0.371 0.450 0.686 1.136 Lawton 14 2 5 0 0 1 8 1 0 0 0.357 0.357 0.571 0.929 Barrett 32 4 10 3 0 1 16 2 4 4 0.313 0.389 0.500 0.889 Patterson 39 7 11 4 0 2 21 5 3 4 0.282 0.333 0.538 0.872 Burnitz 56 6 17 1 0 2 24 9 5 9 0.304 0.365 0.429 0.794 Blanco 29 3 9 0 0 1 12 4 2 6 0.310 0.355 0.414 0.769 Perez 55 5 17 3 0 1 23 9 2 2 0.309 0.328 0.418 0.746 Hollandsworth 23 1 6 3 0 0 9 0 2 2 0.261 0.320 0.391 0.711 Hairston 39 3 11 2 1 0 15 1 1 7 0.282 0.300 0.385 0.685 Walker 46 4 12 2 0 1 17 2 2 9 0.261 0.292 0.370 0.661 Murton 21 3 5 0 0 1 8 2 1 6 0.238 0.273 0.381 0.654 Garciaparra 41 2 11 2 0 0 13 1 2 3 0.268 0.318 0.317 0.635 Macias 15 1 4 1 0 0 5 4 0 1 0.267 0.267 0.333 0.600 Cedeno 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.000 0.143 0.000 0.143 Grieve 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 Gerut 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 Fontenot 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 McClain 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 Theriot 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 CUBS 553 65 160 31 2 19 252 64 43 76 0.289 0.344 0.456 0.800 overall 5548 700 1495 311 23 189 2419 672 417 902 0.269 0.324 0.436 0.760 CUBS pitching vs. St. Louis (2005)......... vs. St. L IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA Hawkins 0.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Koronka 0.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 Wood 3.0 1 0 0 2 6 0 51 6.00 18.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 Wellemeyer 2.0 3 1 0 1 2 0 38 4.50 9.00 0.00 2.00 0.00 Zambrano 32.7 24 6 4 3 21 3 457 0.83 5.79 0.83 0.83 1.10 Dempster 13.0 13 4 3 5 8 0 208 3.46 5.54 0.00 1.38 2.08 Wuertz 7.0 3 2 2 3 8 1 119 3.86 10.29 1.29 0.86 2.57 Mitre 3.3 3 1 1 2 2 0 61 5.40 5.40 0.00 1.50 2.70 Rusch 16.3 13 5 5 3 8 1 241 1.65 4.41 0.55 0.98 2.76 Ohman 2.7 2 1 1 1 1 1 36 3.38 3.38 3.38 1.13 3.38 Maddux 21.0 29 9 9 3 12 1 308 1.29 5.14 0.43 1.52 3.86 Prior 23.0 23 11 11 10 19 4 428 3.91 7.43 1.57 1.43 4.30 Williams 12.0 11 7 6 7 10 1 218 5.25 7.50 0.75 1.50 4.50 Novoa 4.7 3 3 3 2 1 1 62 3.86 1.93 1.93 1.07 5.79 Hill 2.0 0 2 2 3 0 0 38 13.50 0.00 0.00 1.50 9.00 Fox 0.7 2 2 2 0 1 1 15 0.00 13.50 13.50 3.00 27.00 Williamson 0.3 3 2 2 1 1 0 22 27.00 27.00 0.00 12.00 54.00 Remlinger 0.0 1 1 1 0 0 1 4 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 total vs. St. L. 144.3 134 57 52 46 100 15 2313 2.87 6.24 0.94 1.25 3.24 overall 1439.3 1357 714 671 576 1255 186 23680 3.60 7.85 1.16 1.34 4.20 ...... and just to give you an idea of who's hot and who's not over the first three games (like as if you didn't already know)........ 04/03 - 04/07 AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Mabry 2 1 1 0 0 1 4 2 0 0 0.500 0.500 2.000 2.500 Hairston 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 Pagan 3 2 2 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0.667 0.667 0.667 1.333 Lee 9 5 3 1 0 1 7 5 4 1 0.333 0.500 0.778 1.278 Walker 8 3 4 2 0 0 6 3 0 1 0.500 0.500 0.750 1.250 Perez 7 2 4 0 0 0 4 2 0 0 0.571 0.571 0.571 1.143 Cedeno 10 3 5 1 0 0 6 1 0 2 0.500 0.500 0.600 1.100 Ramirez 12 1 3 0 0 1 6 2 2 0 0.250 0.357 0.500 0.857 Murton 12 3 3 0 0 1 6 3 2 0 0.250 0.357 0.500 0.857 Pierre 14 4 5 1 1 0 6 2 0 1 0.357 0.357 0.429 0.786 Barrett 13 1 3 2 0 0 5 3 1 1 0.231 0.286 0.385 0.670 Jones 9 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 3 0.000 0.091 0.000 0.091 Bynum 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 team total 107 27 34 7 1 4 53 25 10 13 0.318 0.370 0.495 0.865 Here's a great little gem. Our 1 & 2 spots in the lineup are averaging a combined 4.3 hits per game and have scored an average of 3 runs per game. Life is good, no? 04/03 - 04/07 AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS batting 1st 14 4 5 1 1 0 6 2 0 1 0.357 0.357 0.429 0.786 batting 2nd 13 5 8 2 0 0 10 3 0 1 0.615 0.615 0.769 1.385 CUBS hitters this year have driven 48.1% of the men on base ahead of them compared to 22.6% last year. CUBS are scoring 0.614 Runs per baserunner this year compared to 0.365 last year. CUBS are seeing 3.52 pitches per plate appearance this year compared to 3.61 last year. CUBS have outscored their opponents 8-2 in the first inning this year compared to being outscored 91-58 last year. Go CUBS !!

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING Dempster (7th) in to pitch, Pagan (9th) in left field for the CUBS Encarnacion grounded out to short, 6-3 Pujols grounded out to third, 5-3 Edmonds struck out swinging 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E St Louis 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 4 2 CUBS 1 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 x 5 9 0 CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! W: Maddux (1-0) S: none L: Suppan (0-1) T: 2:13 A: 40,859 Home runs: CUBS: Lee (2) - St Louis: Edmonds (1) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Maddux 6.3 4 1 1 2 1 1 87 Howry 1.7 0 0 0 0 3 0 18 Dempster 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 16

Pujols grounded out to third, 5-3