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Yeah, he needs an extended stretch in AAA. Is there some veteran innings eater we can pick up for cheap to bridge the gap until Darvish comes back? I'm fairly certain Chatwood has too much service time to be demoted without his consent. Theo's just going to have to kill him. -
I am against booing players on your own team, except Chatwood. He horsefeathering sucks and continuing to pitch him is a morale killer for a team of actual good players to play behind. There's no upside here, there never was and they need to admit their horsefeathering mistake and move the horsefeathers on.
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Sure those teams are only a handful of games better than the Cubs over less than half a season and they play in a league where more than half of the teams are not making any effort at being competitive whatsoever and the NL is currently winning more interleague games despite the inherent disadvantage they have in AL parks but hey who can fathom a 7 game series not going their way? It's a stupefying narrative.
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I generally like Mendoza, but that's just silly. We're just as talented as all of those teams except maybe Houston and the gap isn't large enough to where we can't beat them in 7 games.
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He hasn't all year though. He sucks the 3rd time through the order and nibbles up a ton of pitches to the point where he can never go 6. That's not the type of dude you trade an Eloy for. And this game clearly isn't on Quintana, just saying in general. Lol since 2012 he's been worth 24 fWAR and has been the 10th most valuable starter in baseball. That's exactly who you trade a 19 year old outfielder for if you can. A guy with Eloy's profile defensively and with the position he plays will have to really hit like JD Martinez to be what Quintana is on an annual basis. 2 corner OFs have been worth more WAR since 2011 as Quintana. Those two players are Stanton and Harper, so yeah, you make that horsefeathering deal every time.
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Ideally he does but he was clearly gassed. Once he hit 75ish pitches the velo and command went. Guessing the heat didn’t help. He hasn't all year though. He sucks the 3rd time through the order and nibbles up a ton of pitches to the point where he can never go 6. That's not the type of dude you trade an Eloy for. And this game clearly isn't on Quintana, just saying in general. Lol since 2012 he's been worth 24 fWAR and has been the 10th most valuable starter in baseball. That's exactly who you trade a 19 year old outfielder for if you can.
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The fact that Bass was in the game in that situation in the first place should signify that the bullpen isn't as rested and available for tonight as we all thought. Taking Quintana out after 78 shutout pitches before the 6th inning would not have made sense. We've seen Joe use Cishek 20 times this season in that exact spot successfully. If he doesn't have a tired arm he probably got the horsefeathers from Bryant or something and was unavailable. Now consider the temperature and how Q looked to end the 5th. Yeah Q was done. He pitched his ass off but he was done.
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A dumb decision getting a decent result doesn’t make the decision any less dumb We’ve essentially gone from ‘literally anyone but Bass is defensible’ to ‘Bass pitched as well as we could have expected Strop/Cishek to pitch but I’m mad that he was the guy anyway’. I wouldn’t have been angry with Strop or Cishek there but the variables working against it don’t make me think it’s black and white. Yelling about which reliever gets the first out in the 6th inning of a regular season game is basically never going to be a binary good/bad decision. No, Bass is indefensible in that spot against that part of the lineup. He pitched as well as we could expect him to pitch, which is badly. It mattered in this game which I think is more important than tomorrow's game. Oh well, it won't matter in the long run we'll just have to clinch on September 20th instead of the 21st. However, looking at tomorrow, I almost wonder if Joe used the guys he did since he'll probably need 5 innings from the pen tomorrow with Chatwood going. I don't agree with that line of thinking but I can certainly see it playing a role.
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They have one guy in the lineup that can beat you and that's Ozuna. Bass could have pitched this upcoming inning while not facing the only good hitters in their lineup. Ozuna hit a 40 mph ground ball that the defense botched. Process over results. That was the absolute wrong process all the way around and the results were predictable.
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Someone from the “late inning circle of trust” should have been used with two on, no out in the 6th inning if 0-0 game. That’s the problem. They need to get at least 3 more innings from the pen tonight and they play 14 consecutive days afterwards. If there’s a time to use someone like Farrell/Bass it’s in a situation against a slew of non-elite RH bats like that. Bass gave up 2 routine ground balls, a line drive, and a K, would you really expect Cishek to do that much better than that? They have one guy in the lineup that can beat you and that's Ozuna. Bass could have pitched this upcoming inning while not facing the only good hitters in their lineup. Edit: Contact beats you in that situation and Anthony Bass gives up lots of contact because he's shitty. He was the wrong choice no matter what.
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Literally anyone but Anthony horsefeathering Bass is defensible. Yes im sure Farrell(the other RH outside the late inning circle of trust) would’ve been greeted with cheers. The leverage at that point dictated one of the circle of trust.
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Literally anyone but Anthony horsefeathering Bass is defensible.
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GO horsefeathers YOURSELF JOE
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Nah he was gassed.
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Theo needs to take Anthony Bass away from Joe.
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He's had a horsefeathers approach tonight. Got caught guessing every AB.
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The Cardinals have way too many gingers on their team to be even remotely successful.
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Q was excellent but he's done for tonight and our pen is rested.
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I think so too but it makes me laugh at the thought of Q swearing as he's releasing every pitch.
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2018 HR Derby {Discussion & Transaction Thread}
Agony and Ivy replied to Southpaw19's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Re-add: Hoskins Drop: Cespedes -
Thank you.
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Miss a bat please.
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Smoltz not believing StatCast velocities is peak John Smoltz.
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I'm excited that Hicks is in as Matheny is hellbent on running him into the ground.
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HAPP! Saved Willson's ass.
