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Because had he gone to the pen we'd be down 6-3 right now. I'll be glad when our pitchers realize you're allowed to throw shut-outs.

Yeah, but that means it's going to be at .220 within two weeks. I particularly like it when he poses a for a second on his follow-through....even on ground balls. :x

Now there's something we can agree on. Just because we disagreed on the "rooting for a loss" discusssion didn't mean I thought we'd disagree on a lot of other things. I generally take one subject at a time. Nomah with a jack. He's getting into the solo homer thing.

Stupid O'Brien. He should've dealt Griffey and Dunn.

If you don't understand a point, please ask for clarification. I can't believe we're discussing whether or not one should root for their favorite team to lose. I don't understand this cheering point you keep bringing up. If a Cub fan roots against the Cubs, what's the difference between that and being a Cardinal or White Sox fan who root against the Cubs for 162 games?

Nobody was in scoring position for him, and, more importantly, he missed about six weeks of the season.

Lee's gotten under two pitches today that he was crushing into the seats two months ago.

Are you kidding us? Let me guess, you'd trade a playoff appearance for a losing season just so Baker will get canned, right? Brilliant strategy. when will we be making the playoffs? we are 7 back....will we continue to play for the wild card when we are 15 out with 15 to play? I see absolutely no point in rooting against your team, period. And, there have been lots of teams who have come back from seven games out in August to win pennants or division titles. If the NL were stronger, than I'd be less optimistic. But it makes no sense to root against your team. Dusty's regime is hurting the team. We have no realistic shot at the postseason. Losing may be only way to get Baker out. I think the logic is clear. We have an awful bullpen. We have abysmal fundamentals. We have a hot and mostly-cold offense. Our key players are hobbled. Our manager can't seem to play the right players or manage the bullpen. Even if we had fundamentals, that would be something. Anything is possible as long as the mathematics allow for it, but you have to be realistic. You can review my posting history and see that I have always been optimistic, but this isn't a sleeping giant. This is a sinking ship. So, is it fair to say that using that logic an individual would also hope that Perez goes 0-4 if they don't like Perez? That Wood would get hurt or have a 7.00 ERA if they don't like him? See Patterson go 4-80 if they don't like him just to see these guys not play? And what happens if the Cubs go 60-102 this season and Baker is back? Did rooting for a collapse really make sense? I'm not hoping the Cubs lose but what I'd like to see is that they go young all of September and rid the team of all the parts that will not be there in 2005. Maybe have a nice gar(b)age sale in front of Wrigley for other GM's. Agreed. What you just stated is nowhere near the same thing as rooting for the Cubs to lose. We all know there's a big difference between being 7 games out on the loss side on August 9th and September 1st. By all means we should bench the non-2006 players. But, Cuse, how many times have you found yourself rooting against Syracuse?

I like the games when Prior only has four or five K's. I give the Reds credit, when they make outs they're seeing at minimum 6-7 pitches.

Are you kidding us? Let me guess, you'd trade a playoff appearance for a losing season just so Baker will get canned, right? Brilliant strategy. when will we be making the playoffs? we are 7 back....will we continue to play for the wild card when we are 15 out with 15 to play? I see absolutely no point in rooting against your team, period. And, there have been lots of teams who have come back from seven games out in August to win pennants or division titles. If the NL were stronger, than I'd be less optimistic. But it makes no sense to root against your team. Dusty's regime is hurting the team. We have no realistic shot at the postseason. Losing may be only way to get Baker out. I think the logic is clear. We have an awful bullpen. We have abysmal fundamentals. We have a hot and mostly-cold offense. Our key players are hobbled. Our manager can't seem to play the right players or manage the bullpen. Even if we had fundamentals, that would be something. Anything is possible as long as the mathematics allow for it, but you have to be realistic. You can review my posting history and see that I have always been optimistic, but this isn't a sleeping giant. This is a sinking ship. So, is it fair to say that using that logic an individual would also hope that Perez goes 0-4 if they don't like Perez? That Wood would get hurt or have a 7.00 ERA if they don't like him? See Patterson go 4-80 if they don't like him just to see these guys not play? And what happens if the Cubs go 60-102 this season and Baker is back? Did rooting for a collapse really make sense?

Man, I hope Prior scores and gets some rest. I might be blowing it out of proportion, but our pitchers haven't done well the next inning after running the bases the previous inning.

That's funny. Okay, no it's not really. Okay, it is. :)

Are you kidding us? Let me guess, you'd trade a playoff appearance for a losing season just so Baker will get canned, right? Brilliant strategy. when will we be making the playoffs? we are 7 back....will we continue to play for the wild card when we are 15 out with 15 to play? I see absolutely no point in rooting against your team, period. And, there have been lots of teams who have come back from seven games out in August to win pennants or division titles. If the NL were stronger, than I'd be less optimistic. But it makes no sense to root against your team.

And Ramirez is going out swinging for the fences again instead of driving the ball. Also, let's give it up for CPatt, who started the two run rally.

I wonder if his shoulder is right. But, then again, his strike zone is entirely different right now than when he was locked in. Remembering how he stopped hitting late last year, could his early (though extended) surge brought on an earlier season downfall? His strike zone may have changed because he is compensating for the injury. And he is surely pressing. I'd like to see him get a couple days off and see what he looks like afterwards. I believe everyone should be accountable for this mess. And it's ridiculous for Lee in one breath to say they have to win games while he can't see he's hurting the offense if he is indeed hurt. I'm beginning to think that's not the case since he said something prior to the All-Star break and sat. Why wouldn't he sit now? Also, I know we have our favorites on here, but it's not like Lee is a career .340 hitter. Maybe, like Perez, he's just getting back to his normal stats. Except that his career stats aren't as bad as he has been playing. And he, like Aramis, are probaly playing though injury because the team thinks they are still in it and know if they are going to get offense, it will probably be from those two. Straits were not as dire before the ASG. No his stats aren't as bad as he's been playing, but that's why they're averages. If he finishes along his career lines, because of his torrid start, he'd have to put up bad numbers. If he is hurt, his eyes are hurt, too, because he's swinging at crap pitches he wasn't swinging at earlier this year nor last year. Cubs lead!!! Cubs lead!!! Too bad, we're not in the fifth or I'd call for rain. IMO when you're hurt or tired you start to do things you wouldn't normally do. The Cubs have all these lefties so why can't one give Lee a rest? I'm one that let's no one off the hook. Why can't Lee say, "I'm not helping this team right now due to my injury, therefore I'm sitting a couple of days." I get tired of reading how guys simply say stuff like, "We need to play better" or "We need to start hitting", but then hurt the team. Okay, Lee doubles. Now let's get some more runs!

Are you kidding us? Let me guess, you'd trade a playoff appearance for a losing season just so Baker will get canned, right? Brilliant strategy.

Why would any real playoff contender want Burnitz? Most of us didn't want him last spring. Bunt hit for Patterson. Now Henry "Hank" Blanco up. I like Blanco. left handed power bat off the bench...Boston, White Sox, St Louis and Houston all could use him....i'm not saying we'd get anything useful for him, but clearing the spot in RF would be worth the trade... I just don't see the same value in him as you do. St. Louis basically restricts itself to only one home run or nothing type of hitter on their team per year. They have that in Reggie Sanders, but he's DL'ed. I think the Red Sox and White Sox don't need a lefty power hitter off the bench, and Houston wouldn't pay him the nearly $600,000 he's owed for the rest of the year. Burnitz just isn't that good to me.

I wonder if his shoulder is right. But, then again, his strike zone is entirely different right now than when he was locked in. Remembering how he stopped hitting late last year, could his early (though extended) surge brought on an earlier season downfall? His strike zone may have changed because he is compensating for the injury. And he is surely pressing. I'd like to see him get a couple days off and see what he looks like afterwards. I believe everyone should be accountable for this mess. And it's ridiculous for Lee in one breath to say they have to win games while he can't see he's hurting the offense if he is indeed hurt. I'm beginning to think that's not the case since he said something prior to the All-Star break and sat. Why wouldn't he sit now? Also, I know we have our favorites on here, but it's not like Lee is a career .340 hitter. Maybe, like Perez, he's just getting back to his normal stats. Except that his career stats aren't as bad as he has been playing. And he, like Aramis, are probaly playing though injury because the team thinks they are still in it and know if they are going to get offense, it will probably be from those two. Straits were not as dire before the ASG. No his stats aren't as bad as he's been playing, but that's why they're averages. If he finishes along his career lines, because of his torrid start, he'd have to put up bad numbers. If he is hurt, his eyes are hurt, too, because he's swinging at crap pitches he wasn't swinging at earlier this year nor last year. Cubs lead!!! Cubs lead!!! Too bad, we're not in the fifth or I'd call for rain.

Why would any real playoff contender want Burnitz? Most of us didn't want him last spring. Bunt hit for Patterson. Now Henry "Hank" Blanco up. I like Blanco.

Santo is back.

I wonder if his shoulder is right. But, then again, his strike zone is entirely different right now than when he was locked in. Remembering how he stopped hitting late last year, could his early (though extended) surge brought on an earlier season downfall? His strike zone may have changed because he is compensating for the injury. And he is surely pressing. I'd like to see him get a couple days off and see what he looks like afterwards. I believe everyone should be accountable for this mess. And it's ridiculous for Lee in one breath to say they have to win games while he can't see he's hurting the offense if he is indeed hurt. I'm beginning to think that's not the case since he said something prior to the All-Star break and sat. Why wouldn't he sit now? Also, I know we have our favorites on here, but it's not like Lee is a career .340 hitter. Maybe, like Perez, he's just getting back to his normal stats.

Casey with a double. I like the Cubs' chances to fall behind again.

Lee's at-bat killed us. In all of our losses, all you have to do is look at the 3-6 hitters to see why we don't score runs.

Ronnie will be in later. He's having some work done on his limb.

We'll win because Javier Valentin isn't in the Reds lineup. I figured everyone would be happy with that, but I see no mention of it. Now, that's a guy who should be playing everyday for the Reds.