You have some personal insight? Illinois fans were wrong about Jackson and Smart. Painter was in on him from the beginning. I'm not saying he goes to Purdue but we're on his radar. Have you gotten any top level players under painter? I'm not trying to attack purdue or anything, but I just don't see Matt painter landing a McDAAs type. Moore, Johnson, Hummel, 6 Top 100 players between 12' and 13'. Top 25 guys, no, not yet. Yeah, exactly my point. Recently how many guys from Illinois have you went head to head with us for and came away happy? Kendall Stephens? I know you didn't 'want' Jay Simpson. It's obviously an uphill battle to pull Illinois kids from downstate. We're hard after KBD, Finke, and some other Illinois kids.