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Would be too bad if Juventus can't keep dybala. I think they are the best team in the world right now and don't see another club knocking them out of the UCL. Selling Pogba and buying Higuain and Pjanic has worked well.

yeah...i was looking at redick watch this goofy ass FO sign igoudala or something because of course they would I've heard salary projections for Redick as high as $15mil/year. Hard pass Seems like everybody in the NBA is getting 15 a year.

So they were probably asking for Brown and some combination of Smart, Bradley and Crowder? Take this with a grain of salt. I talked to my buddy who lives in Boston earlier about this. He has a friend in the Celtics organization (I have no clue what position exactly, but he told me that he's in the marketing dept) and supposedly the friend heard it was Crowder, 1 of Brown/Smart, 1 of Amir Johnson/Zeller (expiring contract), and '18 Nets pick was the asking price. Not sure if it was just for Butler or Bulls had to send something back to make the $$$ match up. I dont want that deal if that was the deal. Our best bet is keeping butler and hoping Wade opts out to give us space add pieces next year. I top of the lottery pick doesn't do anything for a Butler-less Bulls who would not have a single asset of value or contributing player.

Lots of volatility between 6-8(with teams outside still having a chance too). No way to tell that yet. Granted.

Boston as of now. Basically they likely would play Boston. And then Washington on Indy. I am not delusional about the Bulls. They are bad. But none of those teams is a prohibitive favorite against the Bulls. I believe they have a winning record against those teams so far this year.

If the playoffs started now they would play Boston.

http://i.giphy.com/3o6ZtnCmudwAQCLmhy.gif They are capable (or at least were) of playing Boston tough in a 7 gamer. I'd rather see an interesting series than dump taj and Doug for three guys that can't break into OKCs rotation. No the Bulls were never going to do much but I'd rather watch them try than pull a terrible trade that looks ridiculous in both the near and far term.

If those events unfold as stated, it's hard for me to think of an NBA franchise in a worse position, both immediately and long term.

That's kind of the impression. Paxson supposedly is the one guy in the FO wanting to rebuild too. I wonder if Paxson has the authority to fire Gar? I'm sure he does. I'm sure they don't do trades without him signing off either. What about how the Bulls have operated (and how Reinsdorf operates) suggests otherwise.

In the short term it makes us worse. And having had a couple nice wins recently I was looking forward to making the playoffs and having a punchers chance in the first two rounds. In the long term it does nothing except I guess lets me go to bed after the first round of the draft this summer.

They are a one goal home win over Sevilla from round of 8 in the UCL. This reminds me of all the comparisons of how LCFC winning the EPL translates to an American sports outcome. To me firing him now is analogous to the Cubs firing Joe Madden for saying like too many times during his speech at Cubs convention.

Remember when they wouldn't trade Pau Gasol because it meant something for free agents. They just did OKC a horsefeathering favor.

Look at this deal in the context of the deal they pulled to even get Doug. Really impressive chess moves by garpax. This FO is such a disaster. And really it's that Reinsdorf horsefeathering sucks.

Lebron's recent tirade is an Ether-level dismantling of Charles Barkley. He son fire right now.

I agree that the EPL and top world football leagues have a very different way of handling managers. It's hard for me to grasp coming from an American sports basis. Conte has done very well with Juve and Italy and now has Chelsea at the top. I guess it shows with guys like victor Moses having a huge impact under him.

Chelsea breaking away. They could be 8 clear after the weekend. Conte is great.

too bad PSG sucks now or there would be 2 great ties.

A lot of articles today about Tottenham being unenthusiastic about clinching a spot in the Europa knockout. Isn't that their competition de rigueuer? They should be happy to have a way back to the UCL because it isn't hapening from the EPL.

yeah, wtf? they could have had a ton of fun with this. a 1 round 4-person scramble for the gold would be a lot of fun to watch Pretty much, a 2 vs 2 match play would be fun for a round, a 4 man scramble round, individual match play round then like 1 round of individual stroke play. Where individual can medal then standings go towards overall team medals I cannot fathom what a four man team of top 100 ranked golfers would do in a scramble.

I'm 30 and have no idea what this reference is.

wade has a lot of pull around the league and can be a significant factor in giving us more than a puncher's chance at one of the big FA in 2017, along with having jimmy butler to play alongside. there's not much more you can do than that and hope you get one of the big dudes to sign on the dotted line. Agreed, but Wade isn't here for the long haul and having this weird, nebulous approach to what type of team they are that's seemingly completely contrary to the type of coach they're invested in doesn't seem like a good recipe to appeal to the type of big FA we do want them to sign to stick around for a while. I don't want them to sign Anthony morrow and josh smith because we think Hoiberg is some three point offense guru. I'm not even sure what he's done to earn that reputation. I am Definately against an NBA team playing to a coaches system. Did they have a plan? No. Does the FO suck? Yes. Do I think they salvaged a team when we almost became unwatchable? Yes. I actually have this weird faith that Wade knows what he is doing in coming here and I'm way more willing to trust him than GarPax helming a ground up rebuild.

The designer of that tank and the guy who brought in those "assets" was fired. Suggests to me that Philly themselves don't think it's working. And I know people defend Hinkie. But clueless teams without any solid veteran presence or the ability to have young players learn roles that would eventually allow them contribute to good teams don't develope players and agents don't allow their clients to go to a team like Philly. Per Boston's tank. They had two bad years. It was more a decision to not force something earlier than what they ultimately did. The centerpiece of getting Garnett was Big Al and he was not the result of tanking into the lottery. They also had a star player in his prime. Boston title was much more analogous to the current cavs or the heatles and Definately not a repeatable model for most teams in the NBA to try to copy. Conversely the retool has had proven success. Dallas for example was at the top of the NBA floundered and hired a better coach retooled the core with more old guys like Chandler Kidd Butler and Marion. That produced a championship. They fired Hinke because they were the laughing stock of basketball and not really making any progress on the court. Drafting guys like Noel, who everyone knew would miss his rookie season, Embiid who was drafted 2 years ago and hasn't played a game, and Saric who everyone knew wouldn't see an NBA court for a couple of seasons, made it so the team on the floor was godawful. Ownership was pushed by the NBA to hire Colangelo to move quicker. So no tanking to that degree did not work for Hinke, but Philly is an extreme example of tanking. They basically exchanged every player with trade value for draft picks for like 3 full seasons and put a d-league team on the court. But all that said, I believe it is working considering all the assets they have now. All moot though because even though I am for tanking as a concept, I would never be in favor of Philly's style of tanking. There are other ways to do it that don't involve putting out an unwatchable product for the better part of a decade. Ok. But I guess my question is this: what do you consider the main currency in the NBA, lottery picks or cap space? The Bulls have virtually no cap holds outside of two years. Why tank when you could be decent and still have the future space.

Philly is an extreme tanking example, but who knows they have a ton of young talent and assets because of it. Noel, Embiid, Okafor, Simmons, Saric, Kings pick swap in 2017, Lakers 2017 pick (top 3 protected or else unprotected in 2018), Kings 2019 pick (unprotected) All very nice assets to varying degrees and they are way under the cap still. A decent front office could have that team into a legit contender in 2 years IMO. That said was it worth almost destroying the franchise and turning into a laughing stock for 4 years? I don't know we will see. a legit contender to lose to the cavs at best (unless lebron bolts) The designer of that tank and the guy who brought in those "assets" was fired. Suggests to me that Philly themselves don't think it's working. And I know people defend Hinkie. But clueless teams without any solid veteran presence or the ability to have young players learn roles that would eventually allow them contribute to good teams don't develope players and agents don't allow their clients to go to a team like Philly. Per Boston's tank. They had two bad years. It was more a decision to not force something earlier than what they ultimately did. The centerpiece of getting Garnett was Big Al and he was not the result of tanking into the lottery. They also had a star player in his prime. Boston title was much more analogous to the current cavs or the heatles and Definately not a repeatable model for most teams in the NBA to try to copy. Conversely the retool has had proven success. Dallas for example was at the top of the NBA floundered and hired a better coach retooled the core with more old guys like Chandler Kidd Butler and Marion. That produced a championship. The Bulls best chance was to do this. Win as much as possible. Hope Wade has a lot left. Hope Butler continues to flourish. Take a low risk chance on rondo. Make a move for a Aldridge to the Spurs type signing in the next 24 months and hope the cavs get hurt and GSWs plane goes down. Our real problem now is a [expletive] coach that our FO probably will never give up on because he's their idiotic reach guy.

Very critical of this roster here in general. Its obviously not perfect but they went from probably being a lottery team for 3-7 years and likely striking out in the next few FA years to being an ECF team and In good position to add with cap space in the next two years. Think about how awful this team could have been. And don't say we need to tank. 8 teams lost 50+ games last year. 4 lost 60+ games. Taking might get you 5 years in the high end of the lottery that doesn't result in a star player. It's just not a viable option.

Wade is arguably the best GM in NBA history. It's him or Draymond Green.