Oh God, here we go... Yes, "here we go" - anytime OMC has the gall to mention (or implie - something he barely did in this case) he played competitive sports someone engages in a personal attack against him. That's probably what Ziggy was referring to, but I'm personally annoyed whenever somebody has a differing opinion and resorts to lines like "Have you ever played before?" "Do you watch the games?" Belittling crap like that gets you nowhere in a conversation, and is Joe Morganesque reasoning. And as my previous post shows, I'm on OMC's side with regards to Lilly. Thank you for summing up what I was talking about. Edit: I should also make it clear, that my post was more in reference to the insane arguing that that line was most likely going to cause.