minnesotacubsfan

Hutchinson?

Moving up the equivalent number of spots that the Bears moved would essentially cost a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. The Bears basically traded Benson for a late 2nd or early 3rd, and then traded that pick and their 2nd to move up. I don't think he got hosed. 2nd round draft picks are extremely valuable trade chips. I guess this is where I would make a lousy NFL GM, I woulda helpd out and made the Jets pay more, if not, make Jones play angry. Whattya think we can get for Briggs now that he is pissed off? I don't know, but if it's just exchanging a pick? I'd let Briggs sit. All year if necessary. Hell, I'd franchise him over & over and let him sit forever if all I'm going to get for him is an exchange of 15 draft positions. can you actually do that? franchise a player year after year? not a bad option here. I am abit pissed w/Briggs. The offer the Bears gave him last year was a fair offer I think. Maybe the Bears new 2nd rd pick will be one to replace Briggs...

To an extent, yes. If they waste the draft pick then it's a wasted trade. But the fact is Jones had no future with the Bears. They weren't going to give him a $12m signing bonus with a 5 year deal, and then risk him being a cap hindrance in 2-3 years. Jones wasn't going to play out his contract without being a huge problem. So the Bears essentially had to trade him, and they got a decent value for him. People tend to lump draft picks together as just some sort of crapshoot. But they aren't. NFL draft picks have real value. This was a fair deal on both ends. while I think it is true Jones had no future witht he Bears, I still think he was worth more then just a higher 2nd rd draft pick. With this pick (NY 2nd rd) who do you think we are looking for?

Moving up the equivalent number of spots that the Bears moved would essentially cost a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. The Bears basically traded Benson for a late 2nd or early 3rd, and then traded that pick and their 2nd to move up. I don't think he got hosed. 2nd round draft picks are extremely valuable trade chips. I guess this is where I would make a lousy NFL GM, I woulda helpd out and made the Jets pay more, if not, make Jones play angry. Whattya think we can get for Briggs now that he is pissed off?

i DONT SEE WHY WE NEED TO GIVE UP OR 2ND ROUND PICK. jONES STRAIGHT UP FOR THE JETS 2ND RND PICK WOULDA BEEN FINE, BUT I FEEL LIKE ANGELO GOT HOSED. GOOD LUCK IN NY JONESY. BRING ON BENSON!!

decent? no. more then likely? absolutely

There is no one that rivals the man-crush I have for Kerry Wood. shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..move over son, you gotta lotta learn'n and yearn'n to do before you reach my level....

wita Kap-i-tal K good to see the old woody. Lets hope he stays that way.

my head hurts

I pull my hair out when I think of why we haven't tried this yet. Granted, he was a rook, and maybe he doesn't have WR hands (pure conjecture on my part), but a guy with that speed HAS to get a few looks on offense, right?

I have to say that part of an offesive coordinators job is understanding how his players will respond to the opponents defense. Turner did a horrible job at theis in the Super Bowl. having said that, I think Turner can be critisized for his handling of grossman, and his inability to keep Grossman calm when the poop hit the fan. I also think Turner did an exceptional job understanding what he had in his WR's for the majority of the season. I look forward to how he will change in his approach with Grossman (and thus how Grossman will respond) more then anything. I think that is the key for the Bears next year.

raspberry yummmmm

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast.... Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was If the Bears ADAPT to that he wouldn't be a bad pickup. oic...I was confused by that remark......

last I checked, we dont run the West Coast.... Is Turners O a derivative of the west coast? I didnt think it was

That's why you trade Lovie to the Cowboys and use those picks + others for McNabb. i'm confused...so you would be out a coach with a hurt QB? I like McNabb, he would make the Bears the odds on favs for the super bowl, but the chances of him getting hurt ar soo damn high Slide Rivera to the Head spot. I like Rivera, but I like Lovie more as a head coach.

That's why you trade Lovie to the Cowboys and use those picks + others for McNabb. i'm confused...so you would be out a coach with a hurt QB? I like McNabb, he would make the Bears the odds on favs for the super bowl, but the chances of him getting hurt ar soo damn high

McNabb has "Hershel Walker trade" written all over him, ie just one more player to get us over the top, trade the farm away.. at least thats my fear

Screw it. Try and get Schaub from Hotlanta. He's gonna be bad to the bone if he gets a chance to start somewhere. are you serious..Matt Schaub? I have a good friend who is a huge Falcons fan, and hates the idea of Schuab starting...I didnt think he showed much promise...

he seemed to be in position, alot better then before

I wouldn't mind unconventional, but I do agree with your statement about needing to be a no-brainer. I don't replace Grossman with a guy who has his own questions. I just don't buy the theory that he's hopeless. A lot of people said the Bears could never win in the playoffs with a guy like Grossman. I think what we're forgetting is that the Bears went to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman in his first full year. This isn't a case of the team struggling to win 9/10 games a year while developing a QB. They made the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. That very fact negates any notion that they can't win a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman. The defense was not at its best, and they were still within 5 points of winning the Super Bowl late in the game. This post loss apocalyptic talk about absolutely needing to replace Grossman is more emotional than logical. I think it would be very unrealistic to assume his next 28 games won't be better than his first 28 games. I would bet on his 2007 being better than his 2006, barring injury. I guess there's a chance weve seen his best and it's all downhill from here. But I highly doubt that's true, and I really don't see any realistic opportunity for improvement elsewhere. i WOULD WHOLEY AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS. i AM DISAPPOINTED THAT HE DIDNT GROW FASTER, BUT WHO ELSE WOOULD HAVE? GRIESE? DENVER DUMPED HIM FOR JAKE FRIGGEN PLUMMER. ORTON? THE GUY CANT EVEN TAKE BEING A 3RD STRING QB SERIOUSLY. I DONT LIEK BYRON LEFTWICH, GARCIA, OR ANY OF THE OTHER OPTIONS EITHER. THE ONLY ONE I THINK MIGHT BE POSSIBLE IS KURT WARNER, BUT HE SEMS TO HAVE LOST IT TOO. I THINK THE BEARS HAVE TO BITE THIS BULLET AND STICK WITH REX.

The Bears wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl without Grossman this year. He's not ideal by any stretch. But Griese sure as hell isn't a sure thing for glory. I agree Griese wouldn't be better. But I don't think mediocre is ok just because we don't have anything better when we're going into the offseason now, and can try to get something better. I understand our options are limited, but I think Angelo has to look at all of those options and figure out if Rex really is the best option. I'm not sure he is. There's no obvious free agent option. There's no chance of a near-term solution via the draft. The Bears need to put 100% of their QB efforts behind making Rex better. Or at the most, put some of that into drafting a future QB in the middle rounds. But barring any miracle situation where they discover a diamond in the rough off somebody else's bench, Grossman is the QB. Yeah, I guess I just don't like the "there's no other choice" argument. I know there's injury concerns, but if you could get Byron Leftwich for say a 4th or 5th round pick, would you do it? i'd stay away from leftwich...

It doesn't matter what your intentions are, the result is the same. Nobody ever said the Bears are good in rain. The cold and snow was an advantage against New Orleans mostly because the Saints never played in those conditions. The rain is bad for the Bears. And the rain was good for the Colts? Hell, they're a dome team. THE COLT PLAYERS WERE ALL CLAINING BEFORE THE GAME IT WAS GOOD FOR THEM BECUSE OF THE BUILD-UP OF THE FIELD, THE RAIN MADE THE FIELD FASTER.. OF COURSE, THIS SHOULD HAVE HELPED THE BEARS D BOTTOM LINE, THE COLTS HANDLED THE RAIN MUCH BETTER THEN THE BEARS DID, AND YET THE BEARS WERE IN IT UNTIL THE END. I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR

I have to confess. At the beginning of the season, I never REALY thought we would be here today. It never really had crossed my mind. Its really starting to hit me. GO BEARS

u and me both

beautiful :D