VladiRad

Pitch count is arbitrary itself. A pitcher won't have any more wear and tear if he was brought up to throw 120 instead of 90 pitches a game. But having a guy's pitch count fluctuate between 70 pitches a game to 110 a game will make it relevant. Have everyone on the same page as to how to work a guy, which would be the old way by not treating him like he's a million dollar vase, and then this stuff will happen less. And like my other 2 posts I'm sure this one won't be read either.

Well I doubt Prior will ever pitch in the majors again. It sucks, he had the potential to be one of the best ever. At least he made about 13 mil in his career and got a 10 mil signing bonus and he has a college degree so I'm sure he'll be more than set for life.

^Blame it on the organizations who were too busy trying to protect his fragile little arm instead of training him to be a durable major league starter. This is happening more and more because they're throwing millions at young pitchers and they're trying too hard to protect their investments. They put these guys on pitch counts of 60 when they get to the majors then 65 for the next start and so on. It's a bunch of crap and they're just building these guys to have the durability of middle relievers instead of starting pitchers. And 110 hasn't been considered a lot for that long. Find any starter that's at least 29 and you'll find that they threw 110 their whole careers without that causing them arm problems.

Volquez has reached the 120 pitch mark just once with Dusty but he goes 110 quite often but that used to be expected for a starter. I don't know what's going on if it's just because pitcher's are babied their whole career. Volquez probably only threw 60-70 pitches a game in the minors and 70-80 a game with the Rangers and then all of a sudden he has to increase that total by 30-40 a start, his arm isn't used to it. I blame this on babying pitchers too much instead of Dusty. Dusty's just using not so old philosophies. Managers used to be able to throw pitchers out there for 120-130 pitches a start on a regular basis and not expect the player's arm to fall off. Raise these guys from the minors on to be able to handle being major league pitchers. The most durable pitchers of this era threw large amounts of pitches in their careers. For example, in one game in 1992 Randy Johnson threw 160 pitches in one game, and he's thrown 130 pitches in a game at least a 100 times in his career. Well he turned out fine, because his arm was accustomed from minors and college to throw that many pitches. Also Greg Maddux threw 130+ pitches in a game 6 times as a 22 year old, including a 10 and 2/3 inning outing where he threw 167 pitches. His arm lasted a pretty long time, didn't it.

After doing some things I found out that they weigh defense too much/offense not enough on fangraphs. My equations tell me that Nyjer Morgan has been slightly more valuable than Adam Dunn this season. Like the difference between a 103 OPS+ player and 100 OPS+ player if they were given the same amount of plate appearances and had the same value as a fielder. That means I retract some of my statements in this thread about agreeing with fangraphs. Their value differences between the two are off. Nyjer Morgan hasn't been three times as valuable as Adam Dunn so far this year. Not even close. They've been almost the same.

Betting on games, which could lead to fixing games, is much more damaging to a sport than steroids. Let the roiders in, keep Pete Rose out. What Pete Rose did could ruin a sport. But the Hall of Fame is stupid. It's already tainted with crappy players and there's still dozens of players that should be in that aren't so I wouldn't lose any sleep if Pete Rose got in or Bonds or McGwire didn't get in. The Hall is already a joke.

Mike Lincoln is probably the worst pitcher in the majors right now so I'd choose him. Hitters are slugging .663 against him in 23 innings. I think he throws in the mid 80s but of course his breaking balls hang all the time so I might see some 75 MPH meatballs.

What the hell? He's got 18 extra base hits this year. That's not very many but what a weird thing to lie about.

Yeah, maybe. If Soriano hadn't forgot how to play baseball you guys would be in front of the Cards.

What? Their record. Oh I meant they. I need some sleep.

They might be 50-44 instead 49-45 if that happened. If you want them to pay 10 mil for that...

It's not because Morgan is just a little bit better defensively. He's so much better than Dunn there are no adjectives for it. We can both agree than Dunn severely reduces his value by playing in the NL, right? And that no NL team should ever sign him to 10 mil a year especially a team with a 60 mil payroll and no hopes of contending in the near future?

Why don't you say them then? I admit it has some flaws. Defense is hard to measure. But all other defensive stats and people's eyes can tell that Dunn is so bad defensively and Morgan's so good that Morgan is much more valuable in the NL.

If I only cared about a player's defense I would be saying that Adam Dunn is the worst player in the history of baseball. And runs created isn't runs added. It's not comparable to UZR. The offensive values on fangraphs can be compared with UZR. I like how you're completely overlooking fangraphs. Why don't you take them seriously?

Costing your team 30-35 runs in the field does make him middle of the road. Why don't you care about a players defense?