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No, you aren't. Soler FTW. I don't know why people act like they're inter changeable. Cespedes should be in the big leagues sometime in 2012 if not opening day and Solar would be coming up with guys like Wells, Golden, Baez, Maples, Vogelsbach et. al. I say get em both. We have the money. Because I think Cespedes has flop written all over him. I'd rather save the money and spend it on a bunch of bonus babies this summer. They won't have a shortage of money to sign their draftees, provided they don't intend to crap all over the new rules.
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No, you aren't. Soler FTW. I don't know why people act like they're inter changeable. Cespedes should be in the big leagues sometime in 2012 if not opening day and Solar would be coming up with guys like Wells, Golden, Baez, Maples, Vogelsbach et. al. I say get em both. We have the money. Me too. Throw both lines in the water, and see what you catch.
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File that under, "Nice problems to have".
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Well said. The play here is to get LaHair lots of ABs and see if he can turn into a legit asset... be it trade bait or backup 1B/4th OF/power bat off the bench.
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Seriously. If they follow this up with an incredible Garza trade, and land one of the Cubans, it's going to get really nuts around here.
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This being said, we have a [expletive] load of extra money so lets throw it at Cespedes and Solar. That would be even more awesomeness.
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Another fantastic trade. The Cubs keep accumulating players that are younger and/or higher ceiling. It's not going to be this offseason, but sometime soon Theo and co. will be in great shape to trade for the nearing-free-agency superstar guys that the small-market teams can't afford to keep. Call it phase 2 of the rebuild.
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It should come as no surprise that I have heard this response from a lot of folks around here. And they're all wrong. Admittedly, I haven't read all of your posts, but the only free agent signing I've ever seen you promote was Texeira. That doesn'tmake me think you are a big proponent of free agency. Which free agent signings have you seen me oppose? Pujols and Fielder (albeit for different reasons). Any others? Surely you're not forming such a universal opinion based on me not liking two guys. You were specifically asked in the Pujols thread which offensive free agents you would have been comfortable signing. Your answer was Teixera and Gonzalez (who never made it to free agency so he doens't count). That's one guy in four years. Yep you nailed it. There's only been one FA in the last 4 years that I would have been comfortable signing. :lol:
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Castro accused of sexual assault, no charges filed
davearm2 replied to A New Era's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I hope you mean your wife's brother, and not your sister's husband. :shock: -
Trading Soriano
davearm2 replied to ctcf's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
This is where I am too. Better to lose with newer, younger guys that might actually get better, than the same old, same old veterans that are reaching the twilight phase of their careers. -
Trading Soriano
davearm2 replied to ctcf's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
It goes beyond that even. Whatever emotion there is attached to Soriano is negative. Show me one fan that loves the guy, and I'll show you 10 that see him as the embodiment of all that is (hopefully was) wrong with the Cubs. -
Again, there are no perfect free agents. In your scenarios the Cubs will never sign a free agent. That means you must be willing to wait for three or four years for the Cubs to be competitive. It should come as no surprise that I have heard this response from a lot of folks around here. And they're all wrong. Admittedly, I haven't read all of your posts, but the only free agent signing I've ever seen you promote was Texeira. That doesn'tmake me think you are a big proponent of free agency. Which free agent signings have you seen me oppose? Pujols and Fielder (albeit for different reasons). Any others? Surely you're not forming such a universal opinion based on me not liking two guys.
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davearm, maybe. davearm is the exception that proves the rule. Ouch. We've talked ad infinitum about Pujols and Fielder. My comfort level with Darvish is somewhere in the $20M/yr range (including posting). That would put him in the top 5 highest paid pitchers (without looking). It looks like $20M is not going to be enough to get him signed sealed and delivered. Closer to $25M/yr probably. I'm bullish and hopeful on both of the Cubans.
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Again, there are no perfect free agents. In your scenarios the Cubs will never sign a free agent. That means you must be willing to wait for three or four years for the Cubs to be competitive. It should come as no surprise that I have heard this response from a lot of folks around here. And they're all wrong.
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I'd say you're jumping to conclusions. So far they declined to go 10/$265M for Pujols, or $52M posting for Darvish. The latter was explicitly a blind bid process, and the former essentially was too. I'd be careful about extrapolating those two situations to some master plan to pinch every penny. One or both of those guys may have been grabbed if the prices were more reasonable.
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There is always going to be an excuse as to why you shouldn't sign a free agent. Again, don't sign one and see what happens. There aren't any guaranties that the farm is going to pan out either. There will always be reasons as to why you shouldn't sign a particular free agent, and reasons why you should. When the reasons you shouldn't outweigh the reasons you should, what is the right call?
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To a point I agree with you. I didn't want them over-extending to sign three or four guys this year. But I do want them to take some steps forward in building this team this offseason. I understand that most free agents are going to perform at a level below their salary in the latter years of their contract. However, I also understand that Theo and Hoyer are supposed to be brilliant baseball men who can find the team cheap production to soften the blow of the free agent that isn't earning his way anymore. I just want to see strides made this offseason to improve the team. If Volstad and Stewart prove to be very useful, I'll happily admit to being wrong. Just not seeing a lot to get excited about on this roster. Or, Theo and Hoyer are brilliant enough not to get themselves into this situation in the first place, given the current FA options available and the state of the roster.
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Luckily we're not talking about a diner, because you can build a quality organization in the future while still trying in the present. There is no need to punt 2012 no matter how hard davearm works to convince you people otherwise. I seem to recall a lot of excitement about this offseason on this site. Money off the books and the Cubs would be players in the big free agent sweepstakes. I am getting old so maybe my memory isn't very good. Am I remembering wrong? One by one the zombies have been convincing themselves that spending money on baseball players is foolish. I'd choose a much different word than "zombies" to describe folks that think it would be foolish to hand out the contract Pujols got, or the one Fielder is asking for.
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They aren't actively trying to win yet, that's for certain. They're not placing 2012 ahead of the long term, which is the only thing I think you can say with any degree of certainty right now. Saying the FO is actively trying to lose in 2012 is ludicrous. They have not yet done anything to make the team better in 2012. That can be said with certainty. Not doing anything to improve a bad team make not be actively trying to lose, but if you aren't doing anything to try and get better, it's the same damn thing. There is nothing ludicrous about being upset at what they are currently putting out there for 2012. Your anger is misplaced. This season wasn't going to be saved by a few big-ticket free agent signings. If anything, be mad at the folks that created this mess, not the ones doing what's necessary to clean it up.
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Hyperbolic BS. How? It's a crappy team that had addressable needs that haven't been addressed. Nothing done to date suggests any interest in trying in 2012. Unless you think getting rid of Zambrano's attitude will magically make players play better (which I'm pretty sure some people think). I doubt anyone believes in magic. But I bet a lot of people believe the intangible factors that surround a team (chemistry, clubhouse harmony, being a good teammate, etc.) you dismiss, may in fact matter.
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I don't sense that people have their feelings hurt so much that they're absolutely dead set that their viewpoint is right, and every other viewpoint is wrong.
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Your notion that a huge dollar signing is essentially all upside and no risk is just mind-boggling. When the day comes that Prince Fielder is making significantly more money than his production is worth, he will of course be damaging his team's ability to contend, for the simple reason that those dollars could have been better spent, and generated more wins. The very same logic extends to all elite free agents. Obviously not all elite free agents have the same risk profile, or the same likelihood of reaching the point of becoming burdensome.
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those are going to be some really good trades. They don't have to be that good. The guys with expiring contracts will give the Cubs a combined zero WAR in 2013, after they're gone. They do if they're going to make the Cubs "significantly better" in 2013-2014. I'm not suggesting that the guys acquired in these trades will be the only moves made, and that all of the improvement would have to be provided by them.
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Are you seriously saying that it could be easier to move from a 60 win team to contender than it would be an 80 win team to contender in one offseason? I don't want to put words in MR's mouth, but if the Cubs were to trade all of the remaining guys with expiring contracts (Dempster, Byrd, etc.) for top prospects that will spend 2012 in AAA and 2013 in MLB, then it's pretty easy to get to the conclusion that the team is worse off in 2012 but better off in 2013. those are going to be some really good trades. They don't have to be that good. The guys with expiring contracts will give the Cubs a combined zero WAR in 2013, after they're gone.
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That is such nonsense. He's not responsible for turning this team into a juggernaut this year, but they should win more than they are in-line to win. He inherited a flawed organization. But the pieces were out there to turn this team into at least a respectable club this season without destroying any future hope for greater success. If winning 60 instead of 80 games thus year makes the team significantly better in 2013-14, it's stupid not to do it. Are you seriously saying that it could be easier to move from a 60 win team to contender than it would be an 80 win team to contender in one offseason? I don't want to put words in MR's mouth, but if the Cubs were to trade all of the remaining guys with expiring contracts (Dempster, Byrd, etc.) for top prospects that will spend 2012 in AAA and 2013 in MLB, then it's pretty easy to get to the conclusion that the team is worse off in 2012 but better off in 2013.