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CUBS' remaining schedule (12).... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter Opp Starter 151 Mon 09/17 Cincinnati N - Hill Arroyo 152 Tue 09/18 Cincinnati N - Zambrano Harang 153 Wed 09/19 Cincinnati N - Lilly Shearn 154 Fri 09/21 Pittsburgh - Marshall Maholm 155 Sat 09/22 Pittsburgh - Marquis Van Benschoten 156 Sun 09/23 Pittsburgh - Hill Gorzelanny 157 Tue 09/25 @ Florida N - Zambrano Willis 158 Wed 09/26 @ Florida N - Lilly Mitre 159 Thu 09/27 @ Florida - Marshall Olsen 160 Fri 09/28 @ Cincinnati N - Marquis Arroyo 161 Sat 09/29 @ Cincinnati N - Hill Harang 162 Sun 09/30 @ Cincinnati - Zambrano Shern dangit, we play every teams ace. Between Willis, Harang, Harang, Gorzelanny, the pitching roation could not have come out worse. On the other hand, we might not face too many no-name lefties.

I was going to vote to send it to Cooperstown. But then, I saw that we could vote to brand it with an asterisk and then send to the Hall of Fame and voted for that. I wonder if the Hall of Fame would put it on display if it has an asterisk on it.

Here are the starting pitchers who signed for more money per year than Marquis last offseason: Miguel Batista, Adam Eaton, Tom Glavine, Kei Igawa (including posting fee), Ted Lilly, Greg Maddux, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Gil Meche, Mike Mussina, Vincente Padilla, Andy Pettitte, Jason Schmidt, Jeff Suppan, Jeff Weaver, Randy Wolf, Barry Zito Here are the players who were paid comparable to Marquis (6 to 7.5 million per year): Orlando Hernandez, Mark Mulder, Woody Williams So there were 19 pitchers just last offseason who were paid as much or more than Marquis. Of those 19, how many have been better than Marquis this season? 4, maybe 5. By the way, if you look at the pitchers who were in the next pay level down from Marquis, you get pitchers like Kip Wells (4 million), Joel Pineiro (4 million), Tony Armas (3.5 million), Steve Trachsel (3.1 million), and David Wells (3 million). Do you want any of those pitchers? In this pitching market, if you pay a pitcher 7 million a year, you're expecting a below average to average pitcher. Anybody who has shown to be a little above average like Lilly, Padilla, etc. got larger deals. Marquis signed that contract to be an average pitcher, and he's been above average this year. I don't see how anyone can say he was overpaid for this year. In fact, if teams thought they could get a 4 ERA out of him, they would have paid him 10-13 million like they paid other pitchers with histories of giving over a 4 ERA (Suppan is a great example of this). Now, I have no idea what will happen to him in year 2 or year 3. Almost 1 year in though, he's anything but overpaid relative to the market. I want Steve Traschel :lol:

well Soto is going to get an at bat, so at the very least more LOB.

Nice move by Lou to get Fuld in the game for defense and baserunning.

Well, duh

Our outfield defense has gotten dramtically better in the course of the game. From Soriano-Monroe-Murton to Soriano-Pie-Fuld

Milwaukee wins 5-2

Geovany Soto.

Carson Palmer has 6 touchdowns :shock: and he is driving for a 7th Good thing hes on my fantasy team.

The "great one" on this board predicted Marquis would have an ERA over 5. Marquis has been solid all season for the Cubs. No he hasnt but hes been better than expected. Hes had his ups and downs, and Im glad he pitched well today. You made an argument for Marshall, saying he was "good. Marquis has been a little better, how is that not solid? If you just went by reading this board, you'd think Marquis pitches blindfolded. Im not gettin into this again Marquis has been better than I expected, but I just wish he hadnt been so horrible for those 2 months. You dont have to get into anything. Its simple. If you consider Marshall's season to be good, the same can be said for Marquis. Different standards are held for different players, espceially those making 7 million a year. I guess my problem lies in Hendry for thinking Marquis was actually worth that much money. As a number 4 starter, he is doing just fine.

How the hell do we have 13 hits and only 4 runs?

They started showing that on the View?

If that happens, the sound of the Cardinal suffering will be almost audible. And a wonderful sound it will be. And I'll be drinking it like some sort of psychic vampire. You gonna drink the sound of teh Cardinal suffering? How does that work?

ARGHHHHH Come on murt

haha

Just kidding

I wish Theriot had had his day off a little bit earlier.

I take back what I said pregame.

+1

and you're sad about that?

YAYAYAYAYAY

GameCast the ball and the two strikes in the almost the same place. :shock:

Redeem yourself Murt.

At least we havent struck out 6 times in 2 innings.