Kyle, I really think NSBB ruins me for other message boards. It is not always civil, but it is well run and the moderators usually keep things under control. The hooligans that seem to spend way to much time not contributing anything of value on most sports teams message boards is very frustrating. Like Cyno said indianheadnation is ok. So is Letsgowings.com. But there are many on both of those sites who are whiners, cussers and add no value to any good discussion. There's actually like three realllllly bad ones on IHN the rest of the people are pretty cool... there are three though that are a hundred times worse than me... overall it's a great place to talk hockey. Even I have to tone it down over there... you won't get banned for swearing or anything... but be too subjective multiple times and you're gone. I like browsing LGW but I would never post there... too similar to the nhl.com Redwings board.