well, then i don't think we have anything else to discuss. you're right, he'll never amount to anything. oh wait, he was one of the best pitchers in baseball post-ASB in '06. guess judging a guy based on a few scattered innings may not be the best way to go. The king of hyperbole speaks again. so you weren't just judging hill on a few scattered innings? No. I'm saying that you can't say that he should have been up more than he was when he put up a 9.31 ERA in four starts in May. Something had to change, so he went down and worked on some things that helped him out. He is quoted as saying such. I know you are a big fan of his. So am I. But, I don't see the reason for all of this clamoring that he has been so mistreated by this organization. He still had to demonstrate that he could perform at the major league level. He didn't do that in May. listen, we're not going to agree on this. i think he should have been pitching with the cubs through his struggles, you don't. you think the only way he should have been pitching with the cubs was if he came up and pitched great in the bigs. i say he should have gotten the chance because of what he did in AAA. you keep saying he had to demonstrate that he could perform at the big league level. yet the entire time he was dominating in AAA, rusch and others were absolutely not demonstrating that they could perform at the big league level. the cubs have favored other players over hill. i don't know how there can be any doubt about that.