I don't understand why people have an issue with people talking about Rose and his game. The Bulls are awesome, and we all enjoy it (the Bulls fans anyways), and we all love Derrick Rose and want him to be the best player ever. Since he is our superstar, and will be our superstar for the next 10 years at least, we are going to discuss him outside of the context of the team's performance. Over the next 10 years, the Bulls will be good the Bulls might be bad, but one thing will remain constant during those years (most likely), Derrick Rose. So it makes sense that we can enjoy the Bulls season, and enjoy/complain/evaluate/discuss Rose on a separate plane. Doesn't mean that the Bulls winning isn't the most important thing. I have no problem with legitimate criticisms of Rose (plenty of which have been made here). I'm not here trying to say that no one should say negative things about the guy. What I personally find annoying is how that stuff makes up what feels like the last 10-20 pages of this thread.