I know you're trying to defend Rich, but he's been pretty mediocre for some time now. true, 10th best WHIP among major league starters is just not getting it done He had a great April which is bringing down his numbers. April: 1.77 ERA, 0.87 WHIP May: 4.66 ERA, 1.31 WHIP June: 4.32 ERA, 1.17 WHIP But hes got the 10th best whip in the ML! Never mind the fact that he has been average or below average outside of his spectacular start. But thats ok, people can keep living off his one month, and making excuses for the rest of the year, its not Richs fault at all. This logic can extend to Zambrano as well. Whats your point? I havent seen anybody going around and constantly making excuses for why Carlos sucked. However, with Rich, nothing is his fault and he is God and can do no wrong. My point is you have to look at the season as a whole. Rich has been inconsistent but overall he's been above average (more so than Z overall although he's gotten much better of late). I think its important that Z struggled early, and obviously made the adjustments a ML pitcher needs to make. Where as Hill was dominant early, and has yet to make the proper adjustments to get back to the dominance. I disagree. He's been bad in his last few starts but Hill went through a down period between May 11 and May 22 (3 starts) where he surrendered 5, 4, and 5 runs only to follow it with four starts where he gave up 0, 3, 1, and 3 runs (ending on June 12th). His most recent starts were 5 runs to SD, 1 to the Sox, 5 to MIL, and 6 today. Obviously, he needs to make some more adjustments but it's not like he hasn't done it before.