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The universe will collapse on itself.

We can only hope.

The Cubs are run by dunderpates.

Incomparable to other ML teams because obviously they have blown out games as well. However, the stat itself, I would be interested in that as well.

I'm no mind reader, and neither is anyone else. If you want to talk about 'normal' kicks, not short ones, then fine -- say so. You asked if I recall Hester not getting to kicks, I did and pointed out where, and you agreed but then said I was wrong. That didn't seem logical to me, so I simply asked how it was wrong. I would like to end this. So I am done with it. Have a good evening. Can we be realistic here? Deep return men are not there to catch short/squib kicks. What is hard to understand about that? I felt you disrespected me here, nothing major but I'm not gonna analyze the return game and get called out for something as silly as 'just catching the ball.' Do not oversimplify things and expect me to agree with it. If you're done with it fine, I am too but in the future lets stick on the major points shall we?

suckage. Or rain I can't remember which one.

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing. Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds... However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush. There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it. If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed. Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year. Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp? Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick. Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose. You asked when Hester wasn't able to get to a kick. He wasn't able to in the Super Bowl. You even confirmed it with your own words, as you can see in the bolded text. How is that.....wrong? Are you being serious? Using common sense should have told you when was he able to not get to it on a normal deep kickoff then. Quit wasting my time. Or if you would like to enlighten us on having another deep return man could help the short kick off situation, go ahead. I'm wasting your time? Give me a break. Remind me to never attempt to engage in a rational discussion with you again. We're done here. Uhm...we were talking about how a 2 man return team could be successful. I said I wanted Hester to be the lone man because he can get to any normal kick. However I guess you think he should also be able to get to short squib kicks, but if I have to miss your brilliant insight as we've seen so far, well lets just say I won't be missing much.

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing. Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds... However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush. There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it. If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed. Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year. Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp? Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick. Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose. You asked when Hester wasn't able to get to a kick. He wasn't able to in the Super Bowl. You even confirmed it with your own words, as you can see in the bolded text. How is that.....wrong? Are you being serious? Using common sense should have told you when was he able to not get to it on a normal deep kickoff then. Quit wasting my time. Or if you would like to enlighten us on having another deep return man could help the short kick off situation, go ahead.

Haha, habit still. Vinatieri.

Eh screw it. Let Dempster get rocked, we will forfeit the game or hope the offense has a BoSox injection. Then we can tell Lou how stupid he is and everything will go back to normal. Maybe this will pop into their minds for their next brilliant move.

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing. Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds... However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush. There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it. If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed. Re-watch the Super Bowl? After the first kick I don't think Hester was able to cleanly get to many of those kicks. That's the blueprint teams will follow next year. Anyway, what's your problem with adding options in May mini-camp? Wrong. Hester couldn't get to the kicks in the Super Bowl because they were short. Vanderjagt didn't have a super kick that could get the ball past Hester, the only time he tried that Hester took it to the house. 2 returners would not help this situation whatsoever, in fact it would weaken the return because there is one less blocker on a short kick. Also, I said I don't like it, not that I have a problem with it. Let me reiterate what I said earlier, the Bears special teams are an amazing unit and I'm sure they can execute pretty much whatever option they choose.

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing. Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds... However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush. There were several times when Hester couldn't get to a ball. Teams kicked away from him quite a bit in the 2nd half of the season. He didn't get to all those. And frankly, I don't want him stretching to get to a ball kicked away from him, then fumbling because of it. If you could be more specific that would be fantastic cause I watched every game last year and can't recall one example. There is just way too much hang time on a Kickoff for someone to not get to a ball, especially someone with 4.3 speed.

Meh, if they try to kick away from Hester, we counter with a 2-man return formation. It gives us another option if we want to use it. Never a bad thing. Did you ever recall Hester having trouble getting to a ball? If you get kicked away from on the KO it usually goes out of bounds... However the Bears' special teams are always so well executed I'm sure whatever they throw out there will work, I just like the idea of Hester touching the ball as many times as possible. He is the most explosive runner in the league, that includes hype-boy Reggie Bush.

BRILLIANT!!

I posted on the Bears' board why I don't like the idea. Manning is a good returner, that was one of his plus talents when being drafted however Hester is so good at it he never got the opportunity. As you can see from the last year the blocking scheme was perfect with 1 returner. I would rather see AP as the guy in front of Hester because he is likely to be the 1st blocker for Hester on any given return. If Manning is back there he takes away opportunities from the best in the game not to mention is a horrible blocker, he can barely tackle and hes a safety. Only time Manning should be back there is when he is back there alone giving Hester a break, I imagine he may need one here or there considering he will be used on offense and punt returns still.

Watch the NBA game. Oh wait, I'd rather way paint dry than the Spurs. Word.

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perfect.

Maybe if Z would go inside on Erstad once he wouldn't be leaning over the plate waiting to knock the pitch into left. Z just doesn't have it anymore.

Can't say I'm surprised.

I wish Lee would have stayed in, he keeps saying hes healthy enough and I think at some point you become over-precautionary and its detrimental to the ball club.

I'll definitely take that sequence. Barrett hits a double down the line for pops.

Put in Lee for Ward. Let him get 2 at bats this game.

is a worse hitter than Z, Marquis, Prior AND Wood. His arm sucks too, and seeing his errors go way up this year, he has lost any value he has whatsoever, HE SUCKS, hopefully in 08 or DP combo is ARod-Theriot I dream too.

Just stay away from doing PHP, and hopefully it'll be fine. PHP? Its a new derivative drug based off of PCP...Thats why Roast was so crazy yesterday after Lee hit that grand slam.