Tito Landrum

wife beater and all around cracker.

i won't care if Dontrell or Clemens win it the Cards win the world series. :lol:

what he said.

I guess its because TL and DD have maintained that the cut off for Carp is 100 pitches and 80 isn't 100. :P

cards win in the bottom of the 9th, after an intentional walk to J. Rod, Eckstein drives in Luna from 2nd.

tack on another ER for Carp and the game is tied. He's given up more hits tonight I think than all year.

3 runs for carp in 6 and 1/3 . His ERA will up a bit .

this is a post that sums up my points from a fellow blues fan who i don't ven really like I'm usually very careful not to overrate Cardinals in these award discussions simply because I see them more than guys on other teams. But I think, through Sept. 3, Carpenter should get it over Clemens. Each has made 28 starts and it is Carpenter who has pitched 28 1/3 more innings. Carpenter has 22 more strikeouts and seven fewer walks. Carpenter has six complete games to Clemens’ one, four shutouts to Clemens’ none. And I believe a telling fact is that Clemens has worked past the seventh inning just four times while Carpenter has done so 18 times. Perhaps if Clemens was capable of pitching a little deeper into the game, he would have a few more wins to show for his incredible ERA. I'm not saying the Astros should be leaving Clemens in longer. If he's out of gas, he's out of gas. But shouldn't credit be given to someone who is capable of pitching effectively deeper into the game? Given to someone who doesn't run out of gas as quickly? Like I said, I'm careful not to overrate Cardinals in these things...but at this point, it should be Carpenter.

Lee has had significantly less opportunities for RBI than Pujols, mostly because OBP disasters Corey and Neifi (sometimes Macias) were hitting 1-2 for the majority of the first half, which makes up for his RBI defecit (I think there was a post somewhere on the boards regarding this... there was also something in the Trib). Also, I don't really buy into factoring in Runs scored as a Pujols advantage when their walks and OBP are nearly identical, and Lee has more SB... I think it's attributed to the Cardinals offense being better than the Cubs offense. Ramirez was there for a good portion of the season, but was also hurt for a good portion, and how many times did we see Lee get a leadoff single or double only to wind up stranded? Even with all of their injuries, Stl still has a better offense, and despite all this Pujols has a miniscule 5 R lead over Lee. I don't dispute that for most of the season Lee has had fewer RBI opportunities than Pujols, but so what? When Lee was blowing Pujols away in every offensive category earlier in the season the MVP decision didn't seem like a tough one, but now their stats are close enough, Lee ahead in some, Pujols in others, that each has an equally compelling statistical case in my opinion. When two players are close statistically I think the postseason fate of their teams can be taken into consideration. Without Lee the Cubs might have finished last, with him they'll finish fourth. How valuable does that make his contribution then? On the other hand, with Pujols the Cards will make the postseason with the best record in baseball, without him, well, who knows. ++ well stated

give me a break. :P

it's Loreal.

nice gift by edmonds to end the inning.

we are worse fundamentally than the cards a teams understatement of the year. it's almost comical how bad fundamentally the cubs are.

That's exactly what I was thinking as well. ESPN loves the Cardinals, no doubt about it. No..they love all things Yankees/Redsox related....and if they have time after sucking their [expletive] they'll talk about the Cubs and Cardinal.

don't worry, I fully expect Suppan to cork out on the basepath everytime like back in the WS.