OleMissCub

Jagger looks like a pre-pubesent girl in that clip. that would be the ugliest prebusescent girl in history It's a rare day indeed when you can say that Keith Richards..err..Rasputin, is one of the healthiest looking guys in a band. By the way....amazing how young all those guys were in there, and all were already hugely famous. The oldest was Lennon at 28, Jagger 24, Richard and Clapton 23, and Mitch Mitchell was 21. That's just crazy.

Technically, the Stones acheived their greatest successes with Taylor i.e. Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street. I just think Jones gets alot of credit for being there when they were starting out and throughout the 60's, and thus when they had the most influence.

The Kinks, along with Velvet Underground are probably the two most underrated bands in all of Rock'n'Roll.

Thought this was Hendrix? . Naw, in 1965 when they were recording "I Feel Fine", the boys were going out to have a smoke and John leaned his guitar against the amp and the A string started reverbing back, and everyone was like "HOLY CRAP!" So they learned that if you played guitar next to the amp you could get distortion out of a guitar. He's generally given credit for discovering that and how to translate that to songs. The Beatles had their share of blues too. Watch that video clip I posted, it's a pretty bluesy Beatles tune. But ya, the Stones definitely are more bluesy.

Thank you for that. It was completely awesome - four people who were truly great at what they do. Ya, i've downloaded that and I watch it ALL the time. It's so incredible. Weird to see Keith without his leather face. Another thing of note that's interesting is how skinny John was, as that was at the height of his heroin addiction.

I think that's a fair judgment. It's hard to critize the Stones for not making material as musically innovative as the Beatles because I don't think the Stones ever had that intent. With someone like Paul McCartney you have a man who by the time he was 30 had composed the scores to several films, and is considered by many to be the greatest melodic modern songwriter ever. With Lennon, you have someone who by the time he was 25 had written a play and 2 books, as well as pioneering sound engineering and how it can apply to Rock music. Lennon is often credited as being the first rocker to use distortion in a song: 1965's "I Feel Fine", as well as being the first rock musician to use backwards sound looping (66's "Rain"), and first to use sampling (68's "Revolution #9). All 3 of which are enormous staples of Modern Music. Then on the other hand....you've got Mick and Keith. Two men who'd probably put 17th century pirates to shame. Both men have done more dirty deeds than the entirety of Blackbeard's fleet put together. It's impossible to imagine either of them hunched over a soundboard in a studio for 10 hours a day. They used those 10 hours to go get laid and live their life as they saw fit. I don't imagine they ever took themselves too seriously as Rock'n'Roll innovators. They left that to their great friends from Liverpool.

Indeed, Keith should NOT be climbing trees. As a sign of truce between Stones and Beatles lovers, I offer this amazing clip from the Rolling Stones RocknRoll Circus in 1968. It's John Lennon, Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, and Mitch Mitchell from the Jimi Hendrix Experience performing "Yer Blues", a Beatles song from the White Album. Talk about rocking one's socks off. This is just WOW. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjdRHzH4M8

Beatles fan personality? What, Intelligence? Artisticly minded? Those characteristics don't preclude me from being a Stones fan, but yeah. I guess we should treat that as a complement then.

Beatles fan personality? What, Intelligence? Artisticly minded?

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song. I once heard a DJ on the radio say it was a metaphor for communism... :roll: Naw, it was written by Lennon/McCartney because they needed a song for Ringo to sing on the "Revolver" album. Since Ringo couldn't, and still can't, still worth a crap, they usually gave him silly songs to sing. Such was the case with Yellow Submarine. The Beatles certainly didn't like communism, "Revolution" makes John's feelings on it seem pretty obvious. However, "Imagine" could be taken by many as a song about communism. It does seem like a procommunist song when you think about it but I'm sure that wasn't the intent. I passed 5000 posts earlier today. Definitely dont' think it was his intent. Especially in light of his lyric from "Revolution": Congrats on the 5000 posts....i've been here 2 years longer than you and you are already 1500 posts higher than me.

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song. I once heard a DJ on the radio say it was a metaphor for communism... :roll: Naw, it was written by Lennon/McCartney because they needed a song for Ringo to sing on the "Revolver" album. Since Ringo couldn't, and still can't, still worth a crap, they usually gave him silly songs to sing. Such was the case with Yellow Submarine. The Beatles certainly didn't like communism, "Revolution" makes John's feelings on it seem pretty obvious. However, "Imagine" could be taken by many as a song about communism.

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song. it was #1 for 4 weeks in the UK. People were completely willing to eat up anything the Beatles put out So what? "Wannabee" by the Spice Girls was No.1 too for months. I think you are oversimplifying things here. The Beatles had plenty of failures, chiefly The Magicaly Mystery Tour movie, which was bashed by critics and rightfully so...it sucks. People bought their albums because they were good, unique, and fresh for their time, which is something that I wish we saw more of today in the music industry. People STILL buy their albums on a consistent basis because the quality of the product is still the same: It's good music.

Yellow Submarine was written as a children's song and was never meant to be taken seriously. You won't see it on any greatest songs ever list, so it's hard to imagine how that song could be used to show that the beatles were overhyped. It's a popular song, but nobody would argue that it's some brilliant song.

Wasn't this the same guy who said that under NO circumstances did he want to play in Green Bay? Or was that just a rumor? Ya, Dusty told him he wouldn't play well in the cold of Green Bay. Sorry... :oops: Just HAD to do it.

Agreed, Williams has to be a first-rounder.

The Saints really wacked alot of analysts out with their pickup of Brees, which basically negates them getting Young or Leinhart. As a Saints fan, i'd like to see them perhaps trade their pick down and pickup Ferguson at OT. Saints have a decent defense but really need some offensive line help. On the other hand, as much as I love Deuce (being a former Rebel athlete like myself), his recent injuries have made me question his durabilty as a full-time back. So, Reggie Bush wouldn't be a back pickup either. Either way, the Saints should get someone great out of this.

Heck, McCartney is the first famous rockstar to admit publicly that he did Heroin. This was in like 67. Clearly "Pepper" and "Magical Mystery Tour" are "drug influenced" albums. But that doesn't mean they didn't know what they were doing with it. Their producer is on record as saying that it helped them visualized new concepts that they would bring with them (sober) into the studio. Look, Classic Rock is one of my things. I've got a whole bookshelf full of Beatles, Doors, Stones, Zep, Hendrix biographies and books. Any "fan" who denies the Beatles did drugs isn't a "fan" at all....but rather they are an idiot. The Beatles for some reason have this good image about them, yet if you read about what "really" happened they went to the same drug raves and sexual orgys that the Stones went to.

Well, like i said, this seems to fit more...it could classified as more of an attempt I guess.

Looks like this fits...

Well, it doesn't look like he was hurt. But it just depends on whether he is pissed off enough.

This seems most likely:

I doubt the catcher CHARGED him with anything. This whole hypothetical legal discussion is regarding what he COULD be charged with should this replacement ump seek a legal redress.

Game was played in Rhode Island...here is their statute:

Me too. And Tiger....it doesn't matter, for the purposes of the incident, it could still be considered a deadly weapon.

And yes, a bat is considered a deadly weapon. Although, in all fairness, different states can have different definitions of various laws. Some follow the Model Penal Code to the letter, others look to different sources. I know the Florida Criminal Code has provisions in it regarding aggravated assault and battery of sports officials/umpires/refs. Was this played in Pawtucket or Durham? I used MPC because it was just off the top of my head since I don't know the particular flordia statues. Was this game played in Florida?