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It would certainly help with the Cubs inability to score! LOL! Post of the day...

The funny thing is it just might happen.

Looks to me more like one guy got a bad impression about the story, then everybody downplayed the significance and he changed his mind when he found out about the prevelence of this sort of thing. No, not really. I just didn't know that other teams did this sort of thing. I thought it was a Cubs thing, as opposed to all teams do it to have fun. Isn't that exactly what Goony said? Yeah, I read his post wrong...I was posting on another site and just read it wrong. Shouldn't multi-task message boards I guess.

Looks to me more like one guy got a bad impression about the story, then everybody downplayed the significance and he changed his mind when he found out about the prevelence of this sort of thing. No, not really. I just didn't know that other teams did this sort of thing. I thought it was a Cubs thing, as opposed to all teams do it to have fun.

Stop losing so much. It's not like sucking/not sucking can be turned on and off like a faucet, especially when the faucet is broken. The faucet needs to be replaced. Hell all the plumbing needs to be fixed!

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/72365,CST-SPT-cub26.article I get Atlanta Braves radio, and during a game they were talking about how the same thing was about to happen to the rookies. I believe for them that it's the last time they have a series in New York, so they said the players have to walk through the airport in New York in those costumes. So it does happen at least in the Bobby Cox clubhouse. Okay then, it's a baseball thing. I stand corrected. I had no idea teams did this until I saw the cubs doing it the past couple of years.

Problem with the Cubs is it's a country club for the players. Players have no accountability...If they win? BONUS! If they lose? WE STILL HAVE FUN!

You also have a slowing economy, falling home prices and quite likely a lot less disposable income next February. Very true. You are going to see less tickets sold on both sides of the City. Both are major disappointments.

A new manager in Florida would have to be compared to Girardi's season (over-achieved and in contention for the wild card). A new manager in Chicago would be hailed as a savior to reach .500 and have some sort of direction for the 2008 team. I totally agree with you that the Cubs' job is by far a better situation. The Marlins might be good for a new under-the-radar manager to give him a chance to get some experience. I think you're wrong here. I think as a fan base we don't except a .500 ballclub anymore. As a whole we want a World Series or at least the playoffs. Espically with the Sox winning it all last year and Boston the year before. Anything less is not acceptable anymore... I'll believe that when I see some empty seats at Wrigley and a non-sellout at the Cubs Convention. We invented the motto "Wait until next year." You saw it this year. The last two months you saw a ton of empty seats. You see it when players are boo(ed) on a daily basis. Yea, but those seats were sold and next year's tickets will be sold out within hours. Wanna bet? You have people not even showing up to the game even though they have bought tickets. Do you think those same people will buy them next year.

Didn't this start when Dusty took over? Sorry I don't think being in dead last place a laughing matter. I was under the impression that this has been going on in baseball for a long time. I could be wrong though. Really? If so, I stand corrected. I honestly only have seen this the past couple of years...

ARAM might walk also and you got nothing for him either...

Didn't this start when Dusty took over? Sorry I don't think being in dead last place a laughing matter.

No, that you don't run a professional clubhouse.

Somehow I don't see this happening in a Torre, Cox, or LaRussa dugout. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/cubs/72365,CST-SPT-cub26.article

I was thinking the same thing!

A new manager in Florida would have to be compared to Girardi's season (over-achieved and in contention for the wild card). A new manager in Chicago would be hailed as a savior to reach .500 and have some sort of direction for the 2008 team. I totally agree with you that the Cubs' job is by far a better situation. The Marlins might be good for a new under-the-radar manager to give him a chance to get some experience. I think you're wrong here. I think as a fan base we don't except a .500 ballclub anymore. As a whole we want a World Series or at least the playoffs. Espically with the Sox winning it all last year and Boston the year before. Anything less is not acceptable anymore... I'll believe that when I see some empty seats at Wrigley and a non-sellout at the Cubs Convention. We invented the motto "Wait until next year." You saw it this year. The last two months you saw a ton of empty seats. You see it when players are boo(ed) on a daily basis.

A new manager in Florida would have to be compared to Girardi's season (over-achieved and in contention for the wild card). A new manager in Chicago would be hailed as a savior to reach .500 and have some sort of direction for the 2008 team. I totally agree with you that the Cubs' job is by far a better situation. The Marlins might be good for a new under-the-radar manager to give him a chance to get some experience. I think you're wrong here. I think as a fan base we don't except a .500 ballclub anymore. As a whole we want a World Series or at least the playoffs. Espically with the Sox winning it all last year and Boston the year before. Anything less is not acceptable anymore...

I read that also and have no idea? I think it's about the Hate mail perhaps? Maybe management calling out Prior injury? I have no idea. Only adds to the Cubs mystique. I swear this Org. has more secrects and mystery.. It's like peeling back a onion. Layer after layer of drama. Just gets wierder and wierder and the years go by...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/72254,CST-SPT-deluca26.article After reading that article, it sounds like Pierre is dead set on testing free agency, which I think is a good thing for us. It makes it much less likely that he'll be back next year. Here's another quote from the Suntimes article: Yet, another reason to get rid of Dusty. And quite honestly it's almost stupid to sign him for another 3 years, unless you don't have faith in Pie. Why waste 8-10 million a year on him when Pie is so close? Spend the money on up-grading your pitching.

No doubt. It's going to take a special manager and special team to ever win a WS here.

The Cubs under-achieved? Who underachived? Barrett, RAM, Pierre, Zambrano, Murton, all had good years. Heck, even Jones had a decent year with the bat. I don't think they underachieved I think they are just poorly construced and a bad baseball team. They never had a starting staff to compete with going into the season...When Williams and Rusch are counted on you have problems. I won't argue that they weren't a mediocre team on paper, but they weren't a .400 team going into the season (my guess was 82-89 wins). No $95 mil. team should ever be a .400 ballclub. The problem lies equally with 1) Hendry blowing several million on mediocre players (Neifi, Rusch, Dempster, Mabry, Nevin, and Blanco); 2) unfortunate circumstances such as Lee, Prior & Wood. (Hendry could've done more to insure against Wood & Prior); 3) a poor manager who did more harm than good; and 4) under-achievement by several players: ARAM (sorry, the late comeback in a meaningless season doesn't get you off the hook), Pierre (though I don't really count it against him - he just ins't good), Cedeno, Dempster, Williamson, J. Williams, Guzman, Hairston, & Mabry. IMO there were only a few guys who performed as well or better than expected: Zambrano, Murton, Barrett, Marshall, Walker, Jones, Hill (of late), Maddux, Blanco, Theriot, & Mateo. So true! In fact it's quite shocking! How can you possibly contruct a team that is the worst in the NL, with a almost 100 million dollar payroll? You have to almost try to do that. I still don't think we are a under achieving ballclub. Under achieving is the White Sox. We are just bad.

The Cubs under-achieved? Who underachived? Barrett, RAM, Pierre, Zambrano, Murton, all had good years. Heck, even Jones had a decent year with the bat. I don't think they underachieved I think they are just poorly construced and a bad baseball team. They never had a starting staff to compete with going into the season...When Williams and Rusch are counted on you have problems.

Simply amazing...Why does it seem the orgnazations with the worst fan support win?

GOOD NEWS! Pierre said he'd love to play for Ozzie! http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/72254,CST-SPT-deluca26.article

What you view as "Chicken Little", a lot of people view as their version of reality. We're horrid and I don't think we'll be much better next year with the FA market that's in front of us. No matter who the new manager is whether it be Dierker, Gonzalez, or Girardi, we'll still have the same fella in charge of making deals, and the same fella in charge signing the contract. A friend of mine asked why the Cubs minor league teams were so popular and well visited, and I explained to him that when you have no present, all you've got is the future to hold onto. not what I'm saying - I'm talking about all the people that act like no free agent would ever sign with the cubs. Well you gotta admit the now and future is pretty damn bleak. It's not going to be easy to lure free agents based on the beauty of Wrigley and Chicago, and the passion of the Fans. Alot of players want to win...