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  1. 8-8-88
    I'm wishing we would have made the Tejada trade.
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    I have to agree. Right now, Hendry doesn't deserve any credit. He helped ruin Patterson for the Cubs.
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    Somehow he has been able to create at least a little bit of a demand for Patterson, or so it seems.
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    Per ESPN. 2005 Salary: $3,500,000 Toronto is picking up some of the salary. I think right around half of it.
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    You are going to see the Orioles hold onto Tejada until the All-star break. The only problem with that, is that Miggy will end up having a bad first half of a season and the Orioles won't get nearly as much as they could if he were traded today. Orioles management isn't vert bright.
  6. 8-8-88
    It will come down to this: Boston has to deal Manny and get something in return. Baltimore needs to deal Tejada and get something in return. Unless they want prospects, both teams are better off trading with each other, inside the same division or not.
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    Praise the lord!!
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    from Rotoworld
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    From: Nancy Reagan To: Peter Angelos and Mike Flanagan "Just say NO to drugs"
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    After reading this thread, I have to change my mind and follow everyone else and hope Prior stays. I really like the idea of staying away from Tejada and only going after Zito. If the Cubs do trade Prior, I wonder if Hendry will go after Zito anyways. I hope he would have enough sense to.
  11. 8-8-88
    Any word on what Levine had to say?
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    The IF becomes a strenght, but then the pitching becomes a weakness. I'm not the one who said it would be the worst in my lifetime. But I'm much more likely to side with the person who makes that claim than the person who has no problem dealing Prior because he's only won 18 games once so far in his career. There's a really good chance that Prior will have the best career of anybody the Cubs developed in my lifetime outside of Maddux, and he wasn't traded. So it could end up being the worst trade. Let's say Tejada comes here, has a nice 2-3 years then settles into one of those guys living off his reputation (occasionally looking great but largely much less productive than his former self). During that time the Cubs pitching is highly questionable, Lee returns to normal and the team fails to make any postseason noice. Meanwhile, over the next 10 years Prior develops into a top 5 pitcher in the game, consistently posts a 3.50 ERA or lower, wins 12-20 games a year, and picks up a Cy Young. This set of circumstances is hardly far from possible, and would leave most Cubs fans absolutely disgusted by the results of the trade. The Cubs would have to win it all in 2006 or 2007 to make that trade seem justified, but their pitching would have taken such a big hit that their odds would be no better than if they just maintained status quo. There is a chance that this might happen. There is also a chance that Prior's arm falls off. It's obvious that most people on this board feel that the risk highly outweighs the reward. I just don't feel that the Cubs starting pitching is not as good as everyone makes it out to be. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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    If the Cubs acquired Tejada they would have one of the best IF's in the league. How is that not a strength? Now don't get me wrong, I love Prior, I just don't see how this is the WORST Cubbie trade in your lifetime. When you are looking at Tejada's achievments, do you just throw them out the window? He still had a great year last year for a SS. Would having one of the best INF's in the league really be a strength if we had to decimate our rotation in order to get it? It's never a good idea to create one hole to fill another. You're right. Having Neifi start at SS is a much better option.
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    If the Cubs acquired Tejada they would have one of the best IF's in the league. How is that not a strength? Now don't get me wrong, I love Prior, I just don't see how this is the WORST Cubbie trade in your lifetime. When you are looking at Tejada's achievments, do you just throw them out the window? He still had a great year last year for a SS.
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    Wood hasn't panned out because he's had all sorts of arm trouble. Prior hasn't reached his potential because of freak injuries. There's no reason to expect Wood's pattern to change. There are reasons to expect Prior's to. Worst Cubbie trade in my lifetime. Bleh. Can you explain how it is the worst trade during your lifetime? Prior has won 18 games once. Tejada is an MVP and perennial all-star, along with being possibly the best SS in the game.
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    I'm starting to hope that the Orioles accept the trade. I know Prior is only 25, but I just have a sneaking suspicion that either Priors career is going to go the route of Kerry Wood if he stays with the Cubs. It's tough to not wish the Cubs would have traded Wood a few years ago and gotten something of value for him. I'm just sick of sitting around and waiting for Cubs prospects to never pan out.
  17. 8-8-88
    I say keep patterson, the cubs will need a backup when Jock Jones starts to suck.
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    Maybe Hendry is still holding back dealing prospects until he gets a final confirmation from the Orioles about Tejada's future. Maybe if the Orioles finally tell him there is no way they are trading Tejada, Hendry will finally start to focus on Abreu. Just trying to stay positive here.
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    I hear ya. I think that at times people tend to get a little too wrapped up in the stats and start throwing them out there to prove minute aspects of players abilities. And in no way shape or form singled out any particular poster on this board. I get too wrapped up in the stats myself at times.
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    So, basically what you are saying is stats are worthless and your opinion is the true indicator of what should hold weight around here? There is a middle ground. Everything doesn't have to be cut and dry with only using numbers for support.
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    Sell while his stock is high. We all know Dusty will screw him up somehow.
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    I'm not trying to persuade anyone. I'm just giving my opinion. My point is that you can get stats to prove anything you want. Not only that, but everyone seems to have their own point of view on what stats matter and which ones don't. I just think too many people rely too much on statistics.
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    stats, stats, stats, too many stats are thrown around on this board. As far as the Brewers, they are still 2 years away from hitting their stride. They still need a few pieces, but they aren't the doormat in the division anymore.
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    One of the main reasons I brought up Jenkins is because Lee is a Free Agent after this year. I imagine that the Brewers would like to dump some payroll and possibly add another OF to the mix in case Lee bolts. I really don't see the Brewers trading Jenkins either, but why not inquire about his availability? No matter what, Milwaukee is still a small market team.
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    Exactly. If anything, it's the Cubs that should be sellers, not the Brewers. They finished ahead of us last year, and this year, I think the Wisconsin Diaspora ends--I'm predicting Milwaukee for the playoffs. Only question is whether their pitching will be deep enough. Lineup looks terrific, with Lee, Clark, Jenkins, Fielder, Weeks, Hardy, Hall and Miller. That lineup is much better balanced than the Cubs. If they could just bring in one more quality starter, watch the heck out. C.Lee>Murton Clark~Pierre Jenkins>whoever plays RF Fielder< Weeks~Walker Hardy~Cedeno Hall< Miller I fail to see how much greater and balanced that lineup is. I'd say they are about both equal. Long term it may be better, but for the 2006 season their offense is, at best, equal to ours. As for their pitching: Sheets Davis Capuano~Maddux Ohka~Williams Bush The bullpens look about too. I just don't see how great this Brewers team is and how horrible the Cubs are. They look about equal at best. Of course having Dusty alone loses us a few games, but I don't see much separation between the two teams talent. Healthy Sheets > Zambrano Davis < Healthy Prior Capuano > Maddux Ohka ~ Williams Bush ~ Rusch/Wood I have to give the edge to Milwaukee. I also like Turnbow more than Dempster. Maddux is one hell of a pitching coach for Milwaukee.
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