kycubsfan

I'll never forget what theo, maddon, jake, tony and javy did, but man those final years were so frustrating. what we've been through is in no way a curse or drought, but it had been long enough that I felt a tremendous weight lifted yesterday.

meh, I don't want to see the park as a war zone for parts of multiple seasons. just close up and get it done fyi, the Red Sox haven't done anything to Fenway on the scale of what we're talking about

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-reds&tid=43493 so good it deserves to be posted twice

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-reds&tid=43493 lol @ cincinnati

I agree, I just hope they don't eliminate the pillars and put the upper deck in another time zone

I just wanted to say that I agree completely with you guys

that's quite a reach, most everyone appreciated those changes (as they did the '89 skyboxes and '06 bleacher expansion) seeing as how they only served to improve the park. why are you so passionate in your attack on 'tradition' and 'history'

history matters to some of us lol it does!

ok we're cool

why not? PK was a nut, but WW Jr won plenty of pennants, was the first to recognize the genius of Veeck and was responsible for turning a dinky Federal League park into one of the most enduring symbols of sport oh never mind, I forgot that you hate the ballpark. we'd be better off if the Cubs and Bears had moved into a dome together back in '72

it's plenty recognizable, it just makes you think of the man moreso than it does the properties had Atlanta been an example of modern naming rights conventions the name would have changed shortly after Time Warner took control

a park named for a newspaper would be silly parks named for colorful owners who left a mark on the game (August Busch, Will Wrigley, Ted Turner) are cool. Busch has since paid to keep its name alive, time will tell what happens to the rest

you missed the point the examples you cite are instances of companies putting their most recognizable names on the parks, of all the entities within Turner Broadcasting the actual "Turner" part (a signboard company) is the least recognizable had Turner put up money for the name it would be dubbed "TNT/CNN/TBS Park" or somesuch

history matters to some of us

clearly corporate, they paid for that (i'd say it's underutlized there) there are no naming rights deals in place at Turner or Wrigley