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Or just disappears completely. Neither will happen i'm not wrong. Alright, give us some sort of numbers that prove that you are right then. Why are you ignoring the fact that Theriot has played more games at 2b than SS in his minor and major league career? Wouldn't that make him a natural 2b?

I must admit, that was really funny. :lol: Rob beat me to the punch. I was just going to change it too, but it had already been changed. Just shows that you shouldn't use Wiki as your proof of anything.

Before insulting people you should probably heed your own advice first. Theriot is not a natural SS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Theriot You should probably read the links before you post them. That says he's a natural at 2b.

Cedeno hasn't been hitting for as much power recently, I'll grant... but he's still batting .310 in his last 10 games. And why on earth are you using errors to judge a player's defense? I thought the world was past that archaic mode of thought. Why on earth are you using batting average to judge a player's offense? I thought the world was past that archaic mode of thought. :wink: His defense doesn't worry me one bit. Great range don't mean crap when he drops the ball every time he gets to it, and considering the hitter paradise in Iowa's AAA league, I don't agree with this call up one bit. Need I remind you we have a right fielder who lives life day to day. Take a look at his probabilistic model of range page from last year. Even in a year where he made a uncharacteristically high number of errors, he did enough on balls that nobody else would get to to make him right about the definition of average defensively. Theriot isn't even that good. And Sean, I just didn't feel like crunching the numbers myself. I know it's lazy, but so am I. Seems to me like Cedeno is slightly above average ranging to his right yet terrible at ranging to his left(which makes sense cause that's what I remeber), while Theriot is much better at ranging to his left and the difference sems to make Theriot a better SS. Besides how many of Cedeno's errors are 2-base errors, compared to Theriot's minimal errors. Theriot played two games for a total of 17 innings at SS last year. If that's not small sample size, I don't know what is. Besides, anybody who's watching the Cubs can tell that Theriot doesn't have hardly anything in the way of arm. Fixed, he can still get to the ball and besides a little work on his arm should get him a much stronger arm and make him a very solid fielder. Cedeno has better range and arm but makes way too many errors. He can do all the work he wants on his arm. He's still going to have a well below average arm for a SS. Theriot is a 2b who's playing SS because we didn't have a very good option. Cedeno is on fire at AAA. Might as well give him a chance, considering he's an actual SS. So is Theriot, he was just used at second because he plays there and because Izzy wan't going anywhere. Theriot is a natural SS. Please know what you're talking about. Theriot has played more games at 2b than SS throughout his minor and major league career. How do you explain this if he's a "natural SS"?

Yes, we are in trouble. We've been getting below-average production from SS, CF, RF, and C all year. Hendry needs to make a major upgrade to at least 1 of them. I do believe Ronny is an upgrade over Theriot though.

Cedeno hasn't been hitting for as much power recently, I'll grant... but he's still batting .310 in his last 10 games. And why on earth are you using errors to judge a player's defense? I thought the world was past that archaic mode of thought. Why on earth are you using batting average to judge a player's offense? I thought the world was past that archaic mode of thought. :wink: His defense doesn't worry me one bit. Great range don't mean crap when he drops the ball every time he gets to it, and considering the hitter paradise in Iowa's AAA league, I don't agree with this call up one bit. Need I remind you we have a right fielder who lives life day to day. Take a look at his probabilistic model of range page from last year. Even in a year where he made a uncharacteristically high number of errors, he did enough on balls that nobody else would get to to make him right about the definition of average defensively. Theriot isn't even that good. And Sean, I just didn't feel like crunching the numbers myself. I know it's lazy, but so am I. Seems to me like Cedeno is slightly above average ranging to his right yet terrible at ranging to his left(which makes sense cause that's what I remeber), while Theriot is much better at ranging to his left and the difference sems to make Theriot a better SS. Besides how many of Cedeno's errors are 2-base errors, compared to Theriot's minimal errors. Theriot played two games for a total of 17 innings at SS last year. If that's not small sample size, I don't know what is. Besides, anybody who's watching the Cubs can tell that Theriot doesn't have hardly anything in the way of arm. Fixed, he can still get to the ball and besides a little work on his arm should get him a much stronger arm and make him a very solid fielder. Cedeno has better range and arm but makes way too many errors. He can do all the work he wants on his arm. He's still going to have a well below average arm for a SS. Theriot is a 2b who's playing SS because we didn't have a very good option. Cedeno is on fire at AAA. Might as well give him a chance, considering he's an actual SS.

please see 2006 chicago cubs season He's only 24. I'm not that high on him, but he can probably put up better numbers, and definitely play better defense than Theriot.

He has an OPS near 1.000 in AAA. Hardly call that slumping.

Levine just said he talked to Lou over the weekend, and Lou said he was going to give Cedeno time at SS. Sounds like it might be split about 50/50 between the two.

Levine just mentioned it again. He sounds pretty sure about it. He's asking Cub fans to call in to say what they think about Cedeno splitting time at SS. Must be true.

Figured that Cedeno would get the call up. I wonder if he'll get some playing time or if Theriot will continue being the starting SS.

That is probably one of the most depressing things I've ever seen. God I hope that's not true.

Not a good idea to take a baby out into the bleachers. Way too much sun.

He's got a nice ERA of 16.88

I'm loving that this game keeps going longer and longer. Burn that Brewer bullpen! They've got 8 more games after this one before they get a day off!

Well, we can hope this game goes well into extras. That would be a good thing considering the Brewers have 9 games in the next 8 days. Still would like a Reds' win though.

I would love to have Rios, but my question is why would the Blue Jays trade him?

NO! NO! NO! There's no point to doing this. Murton could outproduce Encarnacion with his eyes closed. If we're going to get a RF, it better be someone who's going to be an upgrade over Floyd/Murton.

It would definitely be nice if the Barrett trade turned into something worthwhile.

It doesn't look like he's pitched since July 7th. Has he been shut down? Haven't seen any news on him lately.

It's definitely going to cost more than Soto, EPatt, and Veal to get Tex, but I would absolutely love to have him on the team. Could you imagine a lineup like this: 1. Soriano LF 2. Derosa 2b 3. Lee 1b 4. Aram 3b 5. Teixeira RF 6. Jones CF 7. Cedeno/Theriot SS 8. Hill/Kendall 9. pitcher =P~

I say it over and over again, but I'm surprised that people even watch BBTN. It's a terrible show with terrible "analysts". It's not even worth watching for the highlights anymore.

I think you're right. I'm guessing we see Moore sent back down and Cedeno, Murton, or Pie brought up. I'm guessing Fox will at least be here until the trading deadline in an attempt to get more offense when facing a lefty pitcher.

That bat is Derrek Lee. and another after that...