So if Trevor Rosenthal gets a spot save for Ed Mujica I won't get the save points because he's not the "closer"? What has this league come too?!? :wink: No and your comment in the poll isn't relevant. The question isn't whether a non-closer can score points, or even in some cases be better than a closer. The question is whether being a closer and losing that title is akin to being benched. Seems clear to me that it is b/c the RP will now only be used in certain non-save situations, just like a position player that lost his starting job. (And comparing a closer that lost his job to an elite non-closer RP makes no sense; if the closer were elite, he wouldn't have lost his job.) Moreover, the rules clearly state several exceptions to the rule against mid-week changes. Then it explicitly excludes starting pitchers from the midweek change rule. Logic says the exceptions to the midweek change rule applies to the other 2 groups (RPs and hitters). Logic also says that since 95% of RPs used in this league are closers and the only way a closer gets "benched" is by losing the closer role, you wouldn't include RPs in the midweek change exception unless you intended it to apply to closers. If there are 3 types of players (hitters, SPs, RPs) and you want a rule (exceptions for mid-week changes) to only apply to 1 group, then you would say "this only applies to hitters." You wouldn't state that 1 of the 3 groups was excluded if you actually meant to exclude 2 of them. Finally, I fully admit that I don't like the benching exception. I think it's full of ambiguity (does a regular who becomes a platoon player count as being benched; the closer losing his job issue; two days off for a non-injury b/c you're slumping, etc). There are other rules that I don't like but abide by. But it is explicitly included in the rules, so I don't know why it wouldn't be applied, other than there seem to be a number of unwritten rules, some of which apparently trump the written ones. The comment was a joke. The fun of this league is being engulfed like flames sucking up all the oxygen in a room. Certainly glad I came back for one more season.