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Even so, you'd surely have to admit that he's not responsible for the Cubs losing, right? Only not winning in the 9th. Answer these 2 questions for me: If he catches that ball in the 9th, do the Cubs win? Did the Cubs win?
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Why are you assuming that the replacement player wouldn't have done anything offensively?
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If Marmol had struck him out, the Cubs would have won. Is the loss also entirely on him? Does nothing before that play matter? If not, how could the Cubs have the lead? A full game consists on more than 1 play. Again, I'm not saying they offset. I'm saying Soriano still came out ahead. What's your point then, that Soriano shouldn't be blamed for the loss? I see your logic, I just don't think it makes any sense. To me it's very simple... if he catches a routine fly ball, the game is over. It's his fault that the Cubs didn't win. No, it's not his fault the Cubs didn't win. There was more of the game to be played after the dropped popout. He made a play that greatly decreased the Cubs chances of winning. lololol. If he catches the all, the game is over. Period. Instead, we lost. It's clearly his fault since that play ultimately and completely decided the game.
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So by Jon's logic, if a player goes 0-4 and makes the routine defensive plays, that was an okay day.
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I'm having flashbacks to 2004. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT200405281.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT200405282.shtml
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All he needs to do... ALL he needs to do, is catch a routine fly ball that he's caught 1,000 times before, and we're all celebrating. Yes, he hit the 2-run homer, but he also cost us the game, so that cancels out, don't you think? 2 runs > 1 run The difference is that he's expected to hit home runs. He shouldn't be congratulated for successfully doing the ONE thing he does well. He gets paid 18 mil a year, so he better hit home runs. Stop acting like it evens out, because it doesn't. So if Hoffpauir, making major league minimum, and hit a 2-run HR but dropped the same fly ball, he would have come out ahead? And I never said it evened out. I said he came out ahead. A player is expected to get hits sometimes. That's what they get paid to do. They're also paid to catch routine fly balls. Saying it's play to screw up a routine play because you did something else you're expected to do is silly.
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:thumbsup: Yeah, he got 2 runs. But he also basically allowed 2 runs. The blown HR in the first that he should've caught anyway, and the 9th inning catch (or lack thereof) He should've made more of an effort, but how can you say that a ball that hit on the back of the top padding up against the metal rail should have been caught? A decent outfielder catches that ball. The wall is like 6 feet tall.
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All he needs to do... ALL he needs to do, is catch a routine fly ball that he's caught 1,000 times before, and we're all celebrating. Yes, he hit the 2-run homer, but he also cost us the game, so that cancels out, don't you think? he lost it in the sun, it's not like someone handed it to him. it happens, it's just unfortunate that it happened when it did. go eat some sympathy food and take a break Of course it happens when YOUR SUNGLASSES ARE FLIPPED UP
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All he needs to do... ALL he needs to do, is catch a routine fly ball that he's caught 1,000 times before, and we're all celebrating. Yes, he hit the 2-run homer, but he also cost us the game, so that cancels out, don't you think? 2 runs > 1 run The difference is that he's expected to hit home runs. He shouldn't be congratulated for successfully doing the ONE thing he does well. He gets paid 18 mil a year, so he better hit home runs. Stop acting like it evens out, because it doesn't.
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A mentally weak team.
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i can't wait until soriano gets injured again
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Worst loss of the year. [expletive] this team
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Okay Bay, all you need is a fly ball to left to win it.
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Just end it, Pirates
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Fukudome is brutal right now
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Surely he just wanted to get his hands around Sorianos neck. What is the opposite of a Web Gem anyway? Cobs
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Soriano didn't get an error. Even if it was an error it still counts as a blown save.
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Soriano dropped a routine fly ball that would have ended the game. Tying run scored.
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I hope Bay finishes this [expletive] game
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FINISH HIM
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Heartbreak city?
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Heartbreak city?
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Huge break there
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I can totally see a walkoff shot by McLouth with 2 outs.
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Walk off Rivas?