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When your GM signs a 2B/utility man the same exact day he trades away the current 2B/utility man, I think it's fair to assume it was a one on one replacement. Hendry wouldn't pay 5 million dollars to replace the Cedeno role. Weren't there even quotes from hendry that day talking about Miles replacing DeRosa in the versatility department?

Okay he's replacing Edmonds for like 10 million more dollars. You're not focusing on the point though. I guess this is you just following through on that promise of following me around and "calling me out" though.

it's on the mlb network site

Bradley is replacing Jim Edmonds, last year Edmonds gave us 250 AB's. Bradley even with his history of poor health has still at least given his team 350 plus AB's, four of the last six years. Plus if Bradley only plays in 100 games with 350 AB's, the loss of DeRosa only hurts if Hoffpauir isn't hitting. If you do a Reed in CF, Fukudome in RF vs LH pitching, and Fukudome in CF, and Hoffpauir in RF against RH pitching, with Gathright defense late in the game. The loss isn't as big as people wanna believe it will be. Of course if Hoffpauir isn't hitting, then we will have a problem, but thats when we make a roster move I guess. IMO it will be easier then ever to get players in salary dumps this season. Yes he's replacing his roster spot, and can play the same postion. But that doesn't mean he's replacing his role on the team. Last year DeRosa had 272 AB's at 2b, and Cedeno had a 108 AB's at 2b. So thats 180-200 AB's more AB's for Fontenot next year, and 180-200 to Miles at 2b. So really 100-130 AB's or so DeRosa AB's at 2b and 3rd, that Miles is replacing(rest is Cedeno). The rest of DeRosa work was in the outfield, and guys like Hoffpauir, Johnson and Gathright will be taking up those 225-250 AB's. So really a combo of players are replacing what DeRosa, not just one player. So like I said before If Hoffpauir is good, there shouldn't really be a downgrade. But this has been debated over and over this offseason, we will just have to wait and see what happens. I don't see the point of saying stuff like Bradley is replacing Edmonds. This team has had a big makeover so you can't just say "this guy is replacing this guy" and so on and attempt to make sense of it that way. You have to look at how the team is being contructed for this season. I think you've really overestimating the options we have when Bradley gets hurt. All the options seem like really bad ones. Not only do I not trust Hoffpauir to be able to hit enough, but are we really talking about playing him in the outfield? Even if he does hit a little bit he's going to give most of that value right back with his defense. Johnson is awful against RHP so that's not a good option, and as of right now the option of Fukudome against LHP sounds pretty bad also. What other options are there when bradley gets hurt? Gathright? Miles in the outfield? Every option I can think of seems like a singificant downgrade to the DeRosa/Fontenot combination. As for the second part of your post, you're again talking too much about last season. Last season is over. The goal is to put the best team possible on the field this season. Like I said, the rest of the moves don't hinge on the difference between Miles and DeRosa (not talking about money right here). It was one or the other. The rest of the team would have been assembled the same way. So yes, Miles is absolutely replacing DeRosa for THIS year. He traded DeRosa and signed Miles on the same day. If he didn't trade DeRosa, he wouldn't have signed Miles, it's as simple as that. It was one or the other. As for the "we just have to wait and see what happens" line you keep using....this is an internet message board. We're supposed to talk aobut this stuff. You're an equal part of this. They're trying to talk the moves down, and you're trying to talk them up. Obviously nobody knows for sure what will happen. All we can do is say hw we feel about the team right now, and right now I think the DeRosa/Bradley combo was a bad one.

Or Cedeno, and you could also say Hoffpauir is taking DeRosa roster spot, with Fontenot getting a bigger role. People can word it anyway they want it to make it sound better to prove their point. Overall this is what we did though. Lost DeRosa-RH Edmonds-LH Ward- LH Cedeno-RH Added Bradley-S Hoffpauir-LH Miles-S Gathright-LH I guess it depends on how good you feel Hoffpauir can do against RH pitching next year, will factor in how good you feel about the switch. If you feel Hoffpauir can have a 850 OPS(facing mostly RH pitching) off the bench filling in at RF, LF and 1b for 250 AB's or so. Then you probably won't feel we downgraded much, and depending on how much Bradley gives us(should be at least 100 more AB's then Edmonds did) and If Fontenot hits the way the Cubs think he wil, you can actually say we might have upgraded. But right now people can't see that as being possible, because Mark DeRosa is awesome. Or because people don't trust Bradley enough to stay healthy. The second bradley gets hurt we're going to feel the loss of DeRosa. I was fine with signing Bradley or trading DeRosa, but not both. And I don't know how you can try to spin it around any other way than Miles replacing DeRosa. That's exactly who he is replacing. There's a reason both moves were made on the same day. All the other moves don't change that Miles was brought in to replace DeRosa. It was going to be one of those 2 guys.

interesting

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO He's not booing, he is saying Neeewwwwwww. Nashville flat outplayed the Hawks the third period. That is why the Hawks lost. Pointing fingers at the officials doesnt help the team get any better. It just makes excuses to keep performing poorly against lessor opponents. I had the benefit of TiVo and you can't honestly tell me the refs didn't influence that 3rd period.... No. The Refs also didnt have the benefit of TiVo. So the calls were legit. I don't get that. We're not talking about a ref having to call a ball fair or foul or something like that. You're not forced to call penalties. You call them when you see somebody do something wrong. Many of those calls were garbage and had no reason to be called, especially consecutively. And the only period the Hawks were really outplayed was the 3rd, and it's hard not to get outplayed when you're shorthanded for like a 3rd of the period. How are you supposed to get anything going when you're shorthanded 4 times in one period? They still outshot the Preds for the game and had a 2 goal lead going into the 3rd period. Like i said, 2 of the last 3 goals came on power plays from penalties that should NOT have been called. Take away those 2 BS coals and it's still 3-3, not to mention the momentum factor. Did the Hawks deserve to win? I don't know. What I do know if that the refs took the chance away from them. If not for the 3 consecutive phony calls in the 3rd, I firmly believe that the Hawks get at least one point. Keep in mind I'm not one to trash refs unless they deserve it

What's the deal with the 3 hours of paid programming on MLBN from 4-7 AM? That's weak Also I'm getting kind of sick of Harold Reynolds trashing metrics

lol gtfo dumont

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO He's not booing, he is saying Neeewwwwwww. Nashville flat outplayed the Hawks the third period. That is why the Hawks lost. Pointing fingers at the officials doesnt help the team get any better. It just makes excuses to keep performing poorly against lessor opponents. Despite the fact that the Hawks got outplayed in the 3rd, 2 of the final 3 goals were scored on BS penalties, and the difference in the game was those 2 goals. Would the Hakws have won without the garbage officating? Who knows, but the refs took that chance away from them.

Maybe he's getting it up in Toronto. i alays have trouble getting it up in canada

how many bad games has huet had since khabi has been hurt? like, one?

refs win! 2 in a row!

lol and then beaten to the puck to negate icing. gtfo the ice

No doubt, though I'm not terribly worried about that at this point. vancouver has been slowly inching up on us

refs have been awful, defense has been awful, huet has been awful. even though they may have won without the bogus officiating, they probably wouldn't have deserved it. they have been complete garbage in the second half of this game. campbell and huet have been the worst.

this is how you piss away home ice in the first round

but we've still got those makeup calls coming, right?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

yep, awful game for huet. awful game for everybody really. awful loss

i'd be happy with an ot loss at this point

GARBAGE

3rd in the NHL in GAA Yeah, it sure is nice when the opposing team misses empty nets. So his GAA is good because temas have been missing empty nets all season? Citing GAA as the end all be all is equivalent to citing ERA as the end all be all. no it's really not. and i'm not citing gaa as the end all. i'm saying it's funny how huet is so bad when he gives up so few goals

going to be losing pretty soon. they're getting dominated right now by a crappy team.

what a gabrgae goal. and of course they immediately score. terrible officiating and the hawks are completely falling apart in this period.