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I hope so On a semi-related note, Fontenot is getting no love whatsoever in fantasy leagues. On yahoo's rankings (not that they mean anything) he's ranked like 850 overall.

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Nope, the fact that his numbers dramatically drop when he's moved from the leadoff spot. His worst two seasons (by far) over the past 7 seasons were the back to back years in Texas where they tried to bat him in the middle of the order. Lou bats him leadoff because of this. We've seen him try him down in the order and have no patience when he struggles there to start out. This is caused by Soriano's track record. I don't like paying 17 million a year for an injury prone .890 OPS power hitter who doesn't bat in the middle of the order. I'm not sure where you get your numbers, but I don't really care. I generally ignore signing bonuses or spread them out over the course of a contract when considering a player's value. I don't like lumping them all into the first year. Doesn't make much sense to me to do it that way, though, with Soriano, it's clear that he took less in Y1 b/c of the signing bonus. Either way, I don't care. I think it's perfectly legit to say he's earned his contract to date based on the way I amortize the bonus of the amounts he's been paid. The big problem most people had with Soriano's contract wasn't the first couple years, it's paying him $18m when he's in his late 30s. If you don't agree, fine, but the bottom line is not that he's getting 17m a year. That's just not true, no matter how many times you say it. As for batting order, in addition to the fact that's it's almost irrelevant where he bats, I strongly disagree that he'd be worse if he were hitting 3-5 rather than first. I know his history. The board had a huge debate about this when he was signed. I just don't agree that his history automatically leads to the conclusion you're drawing. But it IS 17 mil A year. He get a 136 mil contract for 8 years. You can draw it up however you want it, when his contract is up he'll end up averaging 17 mil for every year he plays, period. So okay, it's "well he's earned his contract up to this point, although to make up for that being possible...we're going to get raped annually in the second half of the contract". I think that's more appropriate since it tells the whole story. And I still haven't heard a reason for Soriano's 2 crappy years in Texas (sandwiched between 5 significantly better ones) that is more likely than it being due to him not batting leadoff. I'm going to believe what is most believable. Obviously it was a different hitter those 2 hitters. What was it? He was sick for 2 years? A 2 year brak from steroids? Givne the fact that he's repeatedly said he feels myuch more comfortable batting leadoff, I think it's easy to see what the most logical reason is for him sucking those 2 years. Even if that's not the reason though, it almost doesn't matter....because the reason he's batting leadoff now is because he's given that impression to Lou. Lou doesn't bat him leadoff because he likes him there, he bats him leadoff because he doesn't feel Soriano will produce in the middle of the order. And no, the difference between a power hitter batting behind the pitcher and batting in the middle of the order is not irrelevant.

Milton Bradley? I suppose that's only as long as kfuk is in center instead of RJ. last year for the second half against RHP it was Edmonds and Fukudome occupying CF and RF, now it's Bradley and Fukudome. He's right, the only left handed bat we added to the lineup against RHP is Fontenot, and I bet he won't even get much playing time against RHP.

there's a difference getting excited about the results of the game and getting excited about the way he was pitching. i think people are excited about how he was throwing, not how he was getting outs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02zXy54p7UA love brad miller's reaction

so the last 2 times the bulls have played the heat they've had the ball with a chance to win it and the shot clock turned off, and both times they've not only not scored...but given the other team the victory

what exatly happened? i only saw the play by play online. i know that wade stole it and drilled a 3 at the buzzer...but how deep? half court?

and people wonder why i can't root for this team

normally i'd agree, but when you have a power hitter in the national league hitting leadoff and directly behind the pitcher instead of behind real hitters, it's significant. you don't think it's important that a power hitter is coming up with the bases empty at a higher rate? you don't care that his home runs are usually coming with nobody on base?

i haven't seen a single person say that milton bradley sucks.

So fr your argument you spread the signing bonus out over 8 yedars even though he's already receieved all of it, but then you don't factor the money he's gauranteed to make later into what he's doing right now. Interesting. If you want to do it your way, he made 17 mil in 07 and 13 mil in 08. Bottom line is that he's getting 17 mil a year for 8 years. If Aaron Miles was given 6/75 but he only made 500k in each of the first 2 years, it would be pretty pointless to say "well he's earned his contract to this point". Nope, the fact that his numbers dramatically drop when he's moved from the leadoff spot. His worst two seasons (by far) over the past 7 seasons were the back to back years in Texas where they tried to bat him in the middle of the order. Lou bats him leadoff because of this. We've seen him try him down in the order and have no patience when he struggles there to start out. This is caused by Soriano's track record. I don't like paying 17 million a year for an injury prone .890 OPS power hitter who doesn't bat in the middle of the order.

so has soriano i don't like paying 18 mil a year for a power hitter who can't bat in the middle of the order and can't stay on the field That's interesting, but we've paid Soriano 9m and 13m the last 2 years (not including signing bonus/incentives). He's earned that. Will he earn 16m this year and the 18m he gets from 2010-2014? We'll jump off that bridge when we get there. 17 million a year. sorry. 136/8= 17. you can spread it out however you want, but ultimately he's making 17 million dollars a year. even if you do it your way, he's averaged 15 mil a year for his first 2 seasons when you factor in the 8 mil signing bonus. i don't think a good-but-not-great power hitter who can't hit in the middle of the order or stay on the field is worth 15 million a year. sorry.

I think people weren't paying attention to what the batters did.... they were paying attention to what Pedro did. He looked good regardless of who he was facing

pathtic pathetic pathetic. going to lose at home to the worst team in the conference. going to be even in GP with vancouver and only 5 points up

mccormick is a bitch

the first one was a love tap. the second one was unneccessary and drew the penalty

and then he acts like he did nothing wrong

good job MORON

yep, definitely going to blow the 4th seed.

If you lose an edge, you lose an edge, what are you gonna do? he lost an edge because he was trying to do his stupid little spinorama for no reason

yeah that was a bit much

Where did you see that he turned down 7 mil? I was under the impression that he was having a hard time finding teams with interest.

so has soriano i don't like paying 18 mil a year for a power hitter who can't bat in the middle of the order and can't stay on the field

Low risk high reward. Nobody is saying he should give him a large amount of money. At this point he'd likely come very cheap. What would it hurt?