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This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure. I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing. This isn't an argument to support Emery; it's an argument against a lazy criticism of him. Exactly, I'm all for criticisms of his record. I have him a D a few weeks ago and am Now considering an F with the latest debacle. But there's still some potential there. GMs are no more static than players in evaluations and projection has to be considered in conjunction with results. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure. I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is the same very weak argument used to support hendry as gm. Individual good moves are meaningless. Emery is in over his head. He's a division 2 strength and conditioning coach in ill fitted executive clothing. Hendry did end up putting together some good teams though... The strength coach thing is so irrelevant and on par with the hipster GM meme. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Would you guys trade Cutler for Manziel and a midround draft pick? My minimum return for Cutler is a Alex Smith like return. But it's contingent on having a capable replacement or identifying a guy you want to draft within the first three picks. Manziel and a third or something would be interesting. I'm not convinced on Manziel as an NFL QB though I'd defer to the scouts and experts if they thought he was. If we do get a new coaching staff though if lean towards trying to make it work with Cutler for another season or two until a replacement was developed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If they identify someone they like well enough in the first round, what about Jay (+ midround?) to the Redskins for their first? As a base framework, I could see something like that happening if Snyder gets on board the RGIII bust bus. I don't know how you could turn down the Redskins first. Isn't that gonna be like top 3-5? A Redskins deal would probably more like their second, which is the type of pick KC gave up for Smith. Depending on where both firsts end up a swap of QBs, a swap of firsts, and another pick or two headed our way perks my ears if dealing with the Skins. But even then I might be waiting until draft day and making that call based on who's there when the Redskins pick comes up. There are like 12-14 teams still putting up worse DVOA from their QB than the Bears. About half have a young guy they are committed to or their own expensive vet, but there is still a strong QB market of 6 or so and only two consensus top picks. And Hoyer will headline the FA market. We shouldn't rush Jay out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The reports yesterday said ABC gets their pick of games. If true it makes sense it'd be a nice deal. They'll take the 25 most valuable games. So the remaining games might hold very little value if they're basically getting what ABC and CSN pick over. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have to imagine he was outed but maybe he just felt remorse about all the uproar this story caused and decided to come clean. If it's the latter, he committed career suicide because of guilt. He's killed any future OC or HC possibilities, but he'll definitely land on his feet as a OL coach. I do think he was outed though, but guilt/pride would be the only other possibility. Like "your saying there's a chance" possibility. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8820776&src=desktop http://www.examiner.com/article/chicago-bears-embattled-head-coach-marc-trestman-was-almost-colts-problem http://forums.colts.com/topic/4708-marc-trestman/ http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1161940-2012-nfl-mock-draft-final-two-round-projection http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2012smcclellin.php If I were to formulate a hot take of Emery's biggest failures it would be more "dummy gets duped by late risers" rather than "nerd tries to outsmart the competition". The latter actually is probably worse but if we're gonna hot take, let's do it right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Would you guys trade Cutler for Manziel and a midround draft pick? My minimum return for Cutler is a Alex Smith like return. But it's contingent on having a capable replacement or identifying a guy you want to draft within the first three picks. Manziel and a third or something would be interesting. I'm not convinced on Manziel as an NFL QB though I'd defer to the scouts and experts if they thought he was. If we do get a new coaching staff though if lean towards trying to make it work with Cutler for another season or two until a replacement was developed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree they are career defining. But people are glossing over that Shea was a late riser amongst the draft chatter. Yea he was a 3rd or 4th rounder in December, but not April. It's just a failure. There's no additional context needed and frankly goes hand in hand with the meatball opinion that Emery is just a nerd and nerds don't have a place in the NFL. Bring back Ditka baby! Similar thing with Trestman. He was a bit out of the blue, but actually I believe Indy and Cleveland both previously showed interest. Whatever those teams didn't see, Emery did see, but again there isn't additional context needed. He failed at the hire and there's no "nerd was trying to show how smart he was" context. It's concerning, but its noise that doesn't really mean anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have to imagine he was outed but maybe he just felt remorse about all the uproar this story caused and decided to come clean. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is kind of my view. He gets a D or F from me right now but I still see a glimmer of hope because individual things haven't been bad across the board. I wouldn't be heartbroken if he was canned too, but I fear the alternative for sure. I don't buy into the whole "tries to be smarter thing". Any GM is going to go against the consensus at some time. I wouldn't trust the job to crowd sourcing. Just because someone takes a risk doesn't mean they were out to prove something, just that their efforts led down a different road. So while you have to question how they reached their decision to me it just comes across as lazy fans moaning to assume it was reached because Emery or anyone goes against the grain just for the sake of going against the grain. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Did I miss the part if we are talking about bWAR or fWAR? Could obviously change the results greatly... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Talk about exaggeration... Slow down there raw. Do you really not think Emery has the capacity to learn from the Trestman hire? To take another example GarPax had a really surprising hire with Vinny Del Negro. A guy who came in and wowed in an interview and supposedly showed a encyclopedia of offensive material. Then he proved to not know the X's and O's or manage a team. They did much better the next go around. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If this ends up getting Trestman canned I'll be forever thankful to Kromer... So thanks? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly my thought. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Great timing on this article lol http://www.chicagofootball.com/2014/12/10/the-coaching-path-of-chicago-bears-offensive-coordinator-aaron-kromer/a3s711h/?page=1

So add Kromer to the list of season end scape goats? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He's playing better now but he also has a fairly established record of crappy offensive play for me to forget about completely. If he keeps up the scoring or even regresses just a little I think he'll probably outproduce Melo over the next 5 years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PTR is gonna pay interest only for all six years. Poverty is a vicious cycle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Also saw today that the Cubs have a flexible pay schedule with Lester. Essentially each year isn't a set amount but they can defer payment some years and pay him more in current years subject to what the Cubs plan to do with the payroll that year. Supposedly it is pretty unconventional and Lester only agreed to it because of his relationship with Theo/Hoyer. Would that also have something to do with the supposed restrictions from the Zell sale? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I wonder what the best and worst 30 day WAR was the past few seasons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We had a lead that big for a short time against Tampa and Trestman went conservative. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Also the Jimmy emergence. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don't understand what a "signing bonus" paid over the life of the contract means... Like $5M in advance at the beginning of each season? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There's still really good reason to care. Yea but I'll be checking the minor league box score after the MLB one finally. It's like a cool little side piece instead of my primary concern. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who cares, he won't be on the 2015 MLB club and its a team actually worth caring about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk