Fred Hornkohl

CUBS are 45-25 when they don't allow any runs in the first inning.... 12-13 when they do Go CUBS !!

CUBS Houston P/PA 1.33 3.33

BOTTOM OF THE FIRST INNING Matsui struck out swinging , 2-3 Erstad lined out to right field Berkman lined out to shortstop 0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 0 0 0 0 Houston 0 0 0 0 Home runs: CUBS: none Houston: none CUBS IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Lilly 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 10 Houston IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Moehler 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4

Erstad lined out to right field

4. You get your mod powers revoked. My banning finger is twitching... You should see a doctor about that !! :wink:

Matsui struck out swinging , 2-3

CUBS are 21-6 when they score in the first inning.... 36-32 when they don't Go CUBS !!

TOP OF THE FIRST INNING Theriot popped out to shallow right field Fukudome flied out to center field D Lee lined out to left field 0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 0 0 0 0 Houston 0 0 0 Home runs: CUBS: none Houston: none CUBS IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Lilly 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Houston IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Moehler 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4

Fukudome flied out to center field

Fukudome AB R H 2b 3b HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BABIP P/PA IsoD RBI% bases empty 176 30 45 5 2 3 3 24 42 0.256 0.348 0.358 0.706 0.321 4.50 0.093 0.000

Theriot popped out to shallow right field

Theriot AB R H 2b 3b HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BABIP P/PA IsoD RBI% bases empty 0 outs 81 17 25 3 0 0 0 12 15 0.309 0.398 0.346 0.744 0.379 4.23 0.089 0.000 bases empty 215 35 66 7 1 0 1 27 25 0.307 0.384 0.349 0.733 0.347 3.81 0.077 0.500 Leading off 76 14 23 3 0 0 0 10 14 0.303 0.384 0.342 0.726 0.371 4.30 0.081 0.000

CUBS have not seen Gary Darling behind the plate this year or last year. Go CUBS !!

Now, junior, behave yourself !! http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8412/indianajones460qx4.jpg DON'T call me Junior! [sigh] It was a line from an old Beatles song. Your Dad told you about the Beatles, didn't he ? [/sigh]

Now, junior, behave yourself !!

CUBS starting lineup......... 03/31 - 07/13 AB R H 2b 3b HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BABIP P/PA IsoD RBI% Theriot 347 51 111 12 1 1 24 41 33 0.320 0.394 0.369 0.763 0.351 3.74 0.074 0.161 Fukudome 326 58 91 17 2 7 36 55 70 0.279 0.383 0.408 0.791 0.337 4.39 0.104 0.174 D Lee 383 63 117 25 3 15 56 42 65 0.305 0.371 0.504 0.875 0.337 3.99 0.066 0.202 Ramirez 324 60 93 22 1 17 65 47 58 0.287 0.388 0.519 0.907 0.305 4.09 0.101 0.244 Soto 316 37 91 24 1 16 56 42 84 0.288 0.369 0.522 0.891 0.347 3.94 0.081 0.183 Edmonds 134 19 36 9 1 9 29 22 28 0.269 0.369 0.552 0.922 0.278 4.20 0.101 0.241 DeRosa 307 57 87 15 2 11 50 43 71 0.283 0.378 0.453 0.831 0.338 3.92 0.094 0.192 Fontenot 143 29 38 12 0 7 21 21 29 0.266 0.367 0.497 0.864 0.290 4.08 0.102 0.151 Lilly 35 1 7 1 0 0 2 1 20 0.200 0.222 0.229 0.451 0.467 3.50 0.022 0.074 Totals 2315 375 671 137 11 83 339 314 458 0.290 0.377 0.466 0.843 0.331 4.02 0.745 0.192 CUBS lineup on the road............ Road AB R H 2b 3b HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BABIP P/PA IsoD RBI% Theriot 163 18 44 4 0 0 12 22 15 0.270 0.360 0.294 0.655 0.297 3.76 0.090 0.164 Fukudome 165 20 35 6 1 2 13 26 34 0.212 0.316 0.297 0.613 0.256 4.43 0.104 0.141 D Lee 189 23 61 15 3 2 25 27 39 0.323 0.404 0.466 0.869 0.399 4.05 0.081 0.235 Ramirez 165 18 39 10 0 7 30 9 27 0.236 0.283 0.424 0.708 0.244 3.90 0.047 0.195 Soto 160 17 47 14 0 9 22 19 43 0.294 0.372 0.550 0.922 0.352 3.97 0.078 0.130 Edmonds 77 6 19 4 0 2 8 11 16 0.247 0.341 0.377 0.718 0.288 4.26 0.094 0.167 DeRosa 154 24 37 7 1 7 25 17 42 0.240 0.320 0.435 0.755 0.286 3.88 0.080 0.194 Fontenot 64 12 16 4 0 4 10 13 13 0.250 0.385 0.500 0.885 0.255 4.03 0.135 0.158 Lilly 19 1 3 1 0 0 0 0 14 0.158 0.158 0.211 0.368 0.600 3.23 0.000 0.000 Totals 1156 139 301 65 5 33 145 144 243 0.260 0.344 0.411 0.755 0.305 4.01 0.709 0.173 CUBS lineup vs. Houston......... vs. Houst AB R H 2b 3b HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BABIP P/PA IsoD RBI% Theriot 24 2 5 1 0 0 1 1 2 0.208 0.240 0.250 0.490 0.227 3.64 0.032 0.077 Fukudome 22 4 6 1 0 0 2 3 1 0.273 0.360 0.318 0.678 0.286 3.80 0.087 0.200 D Lee 24 7 13 4 0 3 6 1 2 0.542 0.560 1.083 1.643 0.526 2.88 0.018 1.000 Ramirez 22 5 8 0 0 2 4 3 3 0.364 0.440 0.636 1.076 0.353 4.20 0.076 0.222 Soto 21 2 5 1 1 1 6 0 5 0.238 0.238 0.524 0.762 0.267 3.00 0.000 0.333 Edmonds 11 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.091 0.167 0.091 0.258 0.100 3.50 0.076 0.000 DeRosa 23 3 9 1 0 1 2 0 3 0.391 0.391 0.565 0.957 0.421 3.70 0.000 0.100 Fontenot 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.333 0.333 0.333 0.667 0.333 3.67 0.000 0.000 Lilly 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.500 0.500 0.500 1.000 1.000 2.00 0.000 0.000 Totals 152 24 49 8 1 7 21 9 18 0.322 0.360 0.526 0.887 0.331 3.52 0.289 0.215 CUBS lineup vs righthanders..... vs Right AB R H 2b 3b HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS BABIP P/PA IsoD RBI% Theriot 268 37 86 8 1 1 18 25 25 0.321 0.382 0.369 0.751 0.351 3.71 0.061 0.163 Fukudome 250 47 70 13 1 7 26 42 53 0.280 0.386 0.424 0.810 0.332 4.31 0.106 0.162 D Lee 299 50 93 17 2 12 41 28 51 0.311 0.367 0.502 0.868 0.343 3.85 0.056 0.200 Ramirez 250 50 74 15 1 16 52 37 47 0.296 0.398 0.556 0.954 0.310 4.08 0.102 0.250 Soto 242 26 65 16 1 12 41 31 63 0.269 0.349 0.492 0.841 0.317 3.90 0.080 0.169 Edmonds 117 17 32 9 1 8 28 21 23 0.274 0.381 0.573 0.954 0.279 4.25 0.108 0.274 DeRosa 230 36 63 10 2 8 38 28 52 0.274 0.365 0.439 0.804 0.324 3.86 0.091 0.203 Fontenot 132 27 36 11 0 7 20 19 26 0.273 0.368 0.515 0.884 0.293 4.12 0.096 0.153 Lilly 21 1 7 1 0 0 2 1 9 0.333 0.364 0.381 0.745 0.583 3.44 0.030 0.133 Totals 1809 291 526 100 9 71 266 232 349 0.291 0.374 0.474 0.848 0.328 3.98 0.729 0.194

Friday 18 July 2008 CUBS @ Houston 19:05 CUBS Theriot, ss Fukudome, rf D Lee, 1b Ramirez, 3b Soto, c Edmonds, cf DeRosa, lf Fontenot, 2b Lilly, p Houston Matsui, 2b Erstad, cf Berkman, 1b C Lee, lf Tejada, ss Pence, rf Wigginton, 3b Towles, c Moehler, p

Lilly, Zambrano, Dempster, Harden, Marquis is the order coming out of the break Something like this.......... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter Opp Starter .96 Fri 07/18 @ Houston N - Lilly Moehler .97 Sat 07/19 @ Houston N - Zambrano Rodriguez .98 Sun 07/20 @ Houston - Dempster Backe .99 Mon 07/21 @ Arizona N - Harden Owings 100 Tue 07/22 @ Arizona N - Marquis Johnson 101 Wed 07/23 @ Arizona N - Lilly Davis 102 Thu 07/24 Florida N - Zambrano Olsen 103 Fri 07/25 Florida - Dempster Miller 104 Sat 07/26 Florida - Harden Johnson 105 Sun 07/27 Florida - Marquis Volstad 106 Mon 07/28 @ Milwaukee N - Lilly Sabathia 107 Tue 07/29 @ Milwaukee N - Zambrano Sheets 108 Wed 07/30 @ Milwaukee N - Dempster Parra 109 Thu 07/31 @ Milwaukee - Harden Bush 110 Fri 08/01 Pittsburgh - Marquis Van Benschoten 111 Sat 08/02 Pittsburgh - Lilly Maholm 112 Sun 08/03 Pittsburgh - Zambrano Snell 113 Mon 08/04 Houston N - Dempster Moehler 114 Tue 08/05 Houston - Harden Rodriguez 115 Wed 08/06 Houston - Marquis Backe

Yeah.... this is worse than being a kid at Christmas. PLAY BALL !! I always thought you were Santa at Christmas. Yeah, but that's still 160 days away.... but, who's counting ?

Yeah.... this is worse than being a kid at Christmas. PLAY BALL !! You can actually remember that far back? Ah... the crap I have to put up with !!

I'm going to avoid the obvious and guess Triple A Motor Club ?

Yeah.... this is worse than being a kid at Christmas. PLAY BALL !!

Mystique has a lot to do with it. Some things just go your way. Are you telling me that the Cards were better than the Mets or the Tigers in 06? Heck No!! How many errors did the pitchers for the Tigers make that led to wins for the Cards? Its just weird.....I'm telling you!! I think you are trying to bait us with inane arguments that no person over the age of 12 would truly believe but. MYSTIQUE?!?! What the heck is that? Some cosmic force that makes the Cardinals good?? My wife had a little white Mystique !! But the mechanics down at the Mercury dealer kept calling it "mistake" instead. What's up with that ??

I just got all those stats based off their 162 game averages on BR. Long time lurker posting here. Absolutely love this thread. Had to chime in here. You absolutely CANNOT use the baseball-reference 162 game average for pitchers to determine if pitchers started more games or less games during certain eras. The 162 game average for pitchers is normalized to a 34 game season (so, for example, if someone started 68 games back in 1898 that would count as two seasons for the 162 game average used on baseball-reference). Here is a link that clarifies the methodology: http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/pitch_glossary.shtml#162_avg Pitchers absolutely started more games and pitched more innings in the past: http://www.baseball-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=2627 Or, as the poster mentioned above, just browse through some pitchers from different eras and look at how many games they started and innings they pitched. Cy Young started over 40 games in a season 11 times during his career and pitched over 350 innings in a season 11 times in his career. No one has started 40 games in a season since Charlie Hough back in 1987 (since 1980 it's only been done twice). No one has pitched over 350 innings in a season since Wilbur Wood back in in 1973. Pitchers started more games and pitched more innings back in the early days of the game. This is indisputable. Welcome to the forum. Welcome again. It should be pointed out that both Charlie Hough and Wilbur Wood, from your example above, threw nothing but knuckleballs.

like E St Louis ?