You don't think they could have gotten more than a bottom of the rotation pitcher for him? I'm not a Casey fan, but the guy can hit. He's the closest thing in baseball today to Mark Grace Jr. Casey was a highly mediocre 1B. He plays in a hitters park, in a division with mutiple hitters parks, and he hits like a second baseman. I wouldn't think there's much of a market for such a player. Exactly. Mark Grace Jr, especially if you consider they're both decent fielding 1Bman on top of the light hitting part. Not quite Mark Grace II, but Mark Grace Jr. The only place where we differ is I think there is a decent market for a guy who you can be reasonably sure can hit over .300 with an OBP overb .350, likely over .360 or so. If Cincy ate maybe 2 mil of his contract, they could have gotten alot better, which if I were them, I would have. I think you're lower on this Williams kid than the league is. He isn't a front-end starter, but he is servicable in the everyday rotation. 2005 looks like a setback for him, but 2004 had pretty solid numbers if you look beyond ERA. Like Goony, I don't believe there was much of a market for Casey. Teams want more power out of 1B, and most teams can only live with Casey at 1B if they produce heavy elsewhere in the lineup from a non-traditional power spot. I actually think the Yankees was a good spot for him, but that's just me.