Getting there

We all know this team lacks enough talent, so I am not sure where the "exclusion of the real problems" fits in to your comment.

Dusty is a bad manager because he beats up his pitching staff and doesn't know how to use a pen. Mike Quade is exactly the same. So, yes, they are two peas in a pod.

So his blatant mis-managing of the pitching staff and pen is fine with you? Really? REALLY? REALLY?!?!?! No, those are the main things of the "things I don't like" about him that I mentioned in the very post you quoted. He's left his starters in an inning too long too many times this season, and his use of Mateo was a dick move, but in the grand scheme of things, no, I don't find him to be an exceptionally bad manager. The Cubs haven't lost most of their games due to his handling of the pitchers. They've lost most of their games by not being very good. Well, if that's the case, you would be fine if Dusty were back? He and Quade are two peas in a pod.

I said I really didn't care if he was the manager. He loves all the stupid "small ball" garbage that ultimately means squat, but in the end he was a pretty run of the mill manager. Give him a good team and I'd likely have little issue with him, though I'd say the same thing about Quade, too. Ok, fair enough. That said, 71 bunts is not exactly a ton. He seemed to pick his spots when the game situation called for it.

You realize Quade had the same reputation, right? Pretty much every manager does not named Dusty Baker. And I hope you'll agree that Quade has proven to be pretty bad at mananging a baseball team. He's done some things I don't like, but I'd have zero problem with him managing a better baseball team. No manager was going to make this team better. So his blatant mis-managing of the pitching staff and pen is fine with you? Really? REALLY?

Nuts and Gum, Seriously, what do you not like about Brenly being the manager for the Cubs?

You realize Quade had the same reputation, right? Pretty much every manager does not named Dusty Baker. And I hope you'll agree that Quade has proven to be pretty bad at mananging a baseball team.

Waiting for the right opportunity? I can't believe two people in this thread have said that Brenly chose to stay in the booth instead of taking a managing job. All of the reports in the offseason indicated that he was, yet again, trying his damndest to get hired as a manager, including with the Cubs, and came back emptyhanded. Umm, Brenly took himself out of consideration for the Cubs job in Sept 2010. Seems like old Bob has plenty of respect around the league though.

Waiting for the right opportunity?

""We were a blue-collar team," left fielder Luis Gonzalez said. "We weren't all about showboating and fancy and things like that. We wanted to go out there and play hard."Brenly's hire was the first big move of the 2000-01 off-season. After interviewing several candidates, including future managers Terry Francona and Clint Hurdle, the Diamondbacks chose Brenly, who had been their television analyst and was rumored to be Showalter's successor as far back as the previous summer. Replacing the fastidious, detail-oriented Showalter, Brenly wasted no time in implementing a more laissez-faire managerial approach, starting with his first team meeting in spring training. He made a loud thud when he threw a supposed rule book in the garbage. "That was more for effect than anything else," Brenly recalled. "Buck did not have a Manhattan phone book-sized rule book. He had his own rules, but the book that I dropped into the trash can was the organizational manual. . . . I used that because it had some heft to it. I knew it was going to make some impact." Brenly then pulled out a cocktail napkin with two rules written on it: Be on time, and play hard. He got the reaction he wanted. The players already felt they had Brenly's respect. "I think the biggest thing was that the players really enjoyed playing for him," said Joe Garagiola Jr., the organization's first general manager. "They wanted him to do well, and they approached their task that way."

I used Soriano as an example. And I said I want a more sound team, not a bumbling, not hitting the cutoff man, bad base running team. You name it, this team does bad in a spectacular fashion. A good manager could change much of this.

For years and years, the Cubs have been an all or nothing team. If they can't hit the long ball, they lose. Plain and simple. How about execution? How about hustle? How about getting them on, getting them over and getting them in? I have seen this team blow more scoring chances that ultimately costs them games because they absolutely REFUSE to do the little things. You don't want Brenly? Fine. I have no problem with him. You haven't even said why you do not like him. How about not buying into the BS that Dave Kaplan is selling? Dave Kaplan? I agree, I think he is a blowhard. However, I have seen plenty of this team over the years. I do not need Kaplan to tell me.

CUBS ARE NOW IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Answer the question. Are you saying hustling does not help win games? I mean, you did say that, right? I said what this team is lacking is not more hustle. A lack of hustle is not why this team sucks and why this team has performed so underwhelmingly throughout the Jim Hendry era. The reason this team isn't good is because Jim Hendry is a bad GM. It is not because they lack a manager who will bench Soriano. I said they lack more than hustle as well. I said it is part of it.

For years and years, the Cubs have been an all or nothing team. If they can't hit the long ball, they lose. Plain and simple. How about execution? How about hustle? How about getting them on, getting them over and getting them in? I have seen this team blow more scoring chances that ultimately costs them games because they absolutely REFUSE to do the little things. You don't want Brenly? Fine. I have no problem with him. You haven't even said why you do not like him.

Interestingly, no one can say who they'd want to manage this team. Take shots but offer no alternatives.

If only they had had Brenly to put them over the top. Or Dusty.

CUBS ARE NOW IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Answer the question. Are you saying hustling does not help win games? I mean, you did say that, right? Damn, you're pretty demanding for a guy that thinks a ton of bunts are important. That question was not for you. I said sound baseball is important.

Two headed monster in the pitching staff and a superstar year from an outfielder. Meet the 2001 DBACKS and 2003 Cubs.

So 71 free outs? Good for him 71 free outs and a world series title. I will take it.

CUBS ARE NOW IN FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Answer the question. Are you saying hustling does not help win games? I mean, you did say that, right?

71 bunts and 81 errors for the 2001 Dbacks. Solid on defense and fundamentals.

You're kidding, right? It was an open secret how badly Brenly wanted the job (and any other managing job). Figured out this quote thing. No, he's not kidding. Brenly has a ring.

Hi, Alfonso, my name is Bob. Welcome to the bench for not hustling. Next?

Jersey, Are you going to tell me that hustle can not help you win games? So turning a double into a single by not hustling, which cost you a run, which could in turn cost you a game, does not matter? Hmm, ok.

Jersey, I would not call calling Soriano out "pretending". He has an obvious problem with it, as do many baseball people. And yes, hustle could easily help win games.