80 wins? 80 wins, yet somehow get into the playoffs? Good chance 80 wins takes the central in 09 care to make a friendly wager on that? Cardinals: Overachieved last year. Still have a terrible bullpen. Brewers: Potentially lost 2 of their best starters. Astros: Worse than last year. Pirates: Still the Pirates Reds: I doubt they break 80 this year.