again, look where the wideout would have been if he runs to the post instead of running an out. right where the ball landed. I wasn't asking about the route, was I ? my point was I don't care how he gets the ball to the right spot as long as he gets the ball to the right spot. You're point is totally irrelevant and non responsive. Why? a qb could be standing on his head and it doesn't matter if it doesn't affect his play. A difference that makes no difference or without a distinction, if you prefer that saying