Careless

More like that, please

A bigger problem is him blowing the whistle way before that guy actually had control of the ball. The Bears were on him before he managed that.

Refs blew that whistle way too early, not that it wound up mattering.

oh, come on.

Clearly the Bears got better when he left. That's not even a question. The question is why. You have your belief. And I don't think anyone would say it's not at least a part of it. Other factors are that the running game got going, and Cutler hit some passes. Also without 7 step drops, the O-line isn't being asked to do the same things they were last year. Okay, but how did the running game get going? And how did Cutler start hitting some passes. The lack of 7-step drops explains absolutely nothing about what happened in that game. Why are people upset at the suggestion that the Bears benefited from the other team losing a defensive end? Nobody's denying that the Bears benefited. I think everyone would agree that's the case. I just think many of us don't think that's the entire story. That the O-line was able to settle down to some extent and start playing pretty decently. Since the Bears couldn't have kept playing that badly on the line if they tried, I think people were talking past each other here.

Replacement umpires?

and now mr poopy pants rears his ugly head When you're wrong about the facts and wrong about every conceivable interpretation, revert to first grade? It fits the inputs and outputs we've seen here, but I'm not sure about the process.

haha nice edit spaz. anyways, like i said, luck hung with cutler for the first 8 passes, and then there was no comparison. The comparison was made at 25 and 27 passes. They had almost the same attempts, yards, completions, and rating. Cutler had the one terrible, stupid, his fault interception, and Luck had some bad luck or incredibly skilled interception against him. When whoever said it, it was a reasonable comment. Luck did really well for his first game. and yes, I hadn't previously read your intent to drag this into poop comments. how did those first 8 passes work, though? luck played inefficiently and got worse as the game went on. cutler got better. It's possible. It's also irrelevant. You've made a bunch of comments in response to me, and they've either been simply wrong or not even wrong. Care to make one on point and not wrong?

Manning is smarter than his coach.

haha nice edit spaz. anyways, like i said, luck hung with cutler for the first 8 passes, and then there was no comparison. The comparison was made at 25 and 27 passes. They had almost the same attempts, yards, completions, and rating. Cutler had the one terrible, stupid, his fault interception, and Luck had some bad luck or incredibly skilled interception against him. When whoever said it, it was a reasonable comment. Luck did really well for his first game, especially when the original comment was made and yes, I hadn't previously read your intent to drag this into poop comments.

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh? The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses. Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two. jay is and was pretty much better at every phase of the game today, i don't know how you can think it was even close. luck was terribly inefficient, his passer rating reflected it and it was borne out over the course of a full game. he looked like a rookie that threw a million passes and made a lot of incompletions. jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be. One might almost think you weren't responding to a comment made about the performances well before the game ended. But you were. And if you're wondering, Cutler's passer rating went from about 85 to 99 after that point of the game. Luck's went from about 84 to 53 so your argument is that for a portion of the game luck was comparable to cutler? ok, i agree, luck's first 8 passes were comparable to cutler's first 8. My argument was made in the middle of the game, about something the announcers said in the middle of the game, and clearly stated as such, so yes, obviously. "your post is dumb as [expletive]"

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh? The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses. Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two. jay is and was pretty much better at every phase of the game today, i don't know how you can think it was even close. luck was terribly inefficient, his passer rating reflected it and it was borne out over the course of a full game. he looked like a rookie that threw a million passes and made a lot of incompletions. jay is faster, more athletic, less statuesque in the pocket, his arm is way way stronger. there's no comparison and there may never be. One might almost think you weren't responding to a comment made about the performances well before the game ended. But you were. And if you're wondering, Cutler's passer rating went from about 85 to 99 after that point of the game. Luck's went from about 84 to 53 And Luck had already been unlucky with at least one INT at that point and Cutler had already had at least one INT dropped after the CB hit the ground.

Yeah, the timeout thing sounds pretty outrageous, but this is a lot closer to proving to me that these guys would be ok given some experience than that we desperately need the ump's union back.

The Bears game went longer than almost every other noon game and the 3:15 games are now 3:25 games. 6:50 isn't that late for the slate to end.

They were about 3:1 favorites. Yes, that's a significant upset. Meh, I think it sells the Niners short and overrates the Packers. I don't really care though. That's how the upset business works And I'm loving the Pereria commentary

They were about 3:1 favorites. Yes, that's a significant upset. 6.5 point favorites. as much as the Pats over the Titans

Last place Green Bay Packers!

ha, scared the crap out of my daughter upstairs yelling on the near int there.

Wow, 30 on the niners just got destroyed.

I'll also take that result

ha!

If Jennings had been the guy catching that Cutler pass in the first quarter, it would have been an interception. Lucky it was a guy who can't catch, huh? The fact is, Luck had managed to do a pretty good job for a rookie of picking apart the Bears pass defense and they would have had more scores if not for the turnovers. Whether or not the Bears have a defense superior at getting that kind of turnover is irrelevant when you're comparing QB play. You'd ideally like to compare it with identical, neutral defenses. Not at the time period mentioned. They were basically the same in attempts, completions, I think Jay had a few more yards, one INT to two.

as long as we have replacement refs, it should be entertaining to hear Pereria interviewed, as a member of the union asked to comment on their decisions

hey, Fox finally noticed the really blatant block in the back

Stat people are going to get really fouled up in football when a genuinely good coach takes over a badly coached team.