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You're comparing team wins with pitching wins. One matters, one doesn't. The W-L record for a pitcher (bad stat) by itself does nothing to indicate how likely a team is to win or lose (very important stat) when he takes the mound for them. When Harden and his 1-1 record take the mound tonight, I think he gives the Cubs better than a 50-50 shot of winning. Welcome to the forum. No I am not confusing the two. I am simply saying that the statement " won/loss records don't matter " is the most incorrect statement you can possibly make regarding baseball, I don't care how you are looking at it. And I see it a lot. How many games you WIN is the most important stat in baseball.Period. To say wins don't matter is silly. Are they the best way to judge certain things ? Of course not. Do they matter ? Of course they do. But I really do not need to tell most of you this. Thanks all for the welcome.
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1. People who act like painfully obvious statements like " won/loss records are not a good way to judge pitchers " is some recent discovery known only by the most clever of baseball fans. Come on. Do you really think people of the 1930's, 1940's, or whenever were too stupid to figure this out ? We are not talking about the stone age here. This has been common knowledge for as long as baseball has existed. 2. People who act all high and mighty and condescending towards baseball fans who may not know, or even care about, the above statement. There is nothing wrong with the casual fan taking his son/daughter to a game at beautiful Wrigley. It is one of the many things that makes baseball great. 3. People who twist statements like " won/loss records are not a good way to judge pitchers " around to " won/loss records don't matter ". Don't matter ? Of course they matter. The only thing that really does matter when it is all said and done is how many games you WON. Still the most important stat in baseball. I could go on and on. Thank you. Good day.