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He shouldn't have been out at the Zero Gravity in St. Louis, all night yesterday. Was that just a reference to the Zero Gravity in Naperville or is there actually one in St. Louis? I was just referecing whatever 18 and under club that Ronny is picking chicks up at.

retired tonight.

He shouldn't have been out at the Zero Gravity in St. Louis, all night yesterday.

[expletive]..STRIKE 3

ha...Cedeno

Little Man-Rat flys out.

Will Eckstein make the HOF, based on the fact he is the first Human/Rat clone ever to play MLB?

ha...they locked Ohman out.

I'm hoping Alex "The Contract" Brown gets axed this TC.

He did, and was almost placed on IR. What a mistake that would have been.

Wow. That sounds a little excessive. Deal is probably backloaded, and I don't think he will see the last 2-3 years of it.

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99% sure this deal doesn't go through, unless we are giving up such good prospects that the Reds are taking on a bunch of Dunn's remaining salary this year.

Agreed.

Even though it is the same division...I think he will be in Anaheim when it is all said and done.

Don't think we have the bullets.

I'm not saying he's likely to be an ace, or the centerpiece of a major trade. I'm simply disputing your statement that he's trash, which is definitely not supported. There's a world of middle ground between being an ace and being trash. I'm just trying to bring some perspective to this....you are not going to get a bat like Dye for a guy of Mateo's value. He may not be trash, but he isn't very good either and I think he is a 5 starter at best. Put yourself as a White Sox fan, and your team is in selling mode....and one of your biggest chips is Dye. My reaction to a Mateo for Dye trade would be that Mateo is trash compared to what we could/should get for Dye. Except that wasn't the trade you reacted to. It was Mateo and Murton for Dye, which from a Cubs perspective, would be a bad idea. Dye at his best, is probably better than Murton could every dream. But Dye is rarely at his best and is in his mid 30's now, so hoping for a resurgence isn't wise. Typical Dye isn't any better than Murton. I don't see how that could be a bad trade at all. First off, the Cubs are never gonna really utiize Murton correctly, and I really don't see Mateo providing any value to this rotation. A lineup with Dye in RF could easly power this team deep into the playoffs. I would gladly make that sacrifice. Then why did you respond to the first suggestion of that deal with: ? Maybe instead of a mocking one liner that added nothing to the discussion you should have stated your actual opinion of the deal. Point noted and I will add that to my Professional Message Board Posting book that I am currently working on.

I'm not saying he's likely to be an ace, or the centerpiece of a major trade. I'm simply disputing your statement that he's trash, which is definitely not supported. There's a world of middle ground between being an ace and being trash. I'm just trying to bring some perspective to this....you are not going to get a bat like Dye for a guy of Mateo's value. He may not be trash, but he isn't very good either and I think he is a 5 starter at best. Put yourself as a White Sox fan, and your team is in selling mode....and one of your biggest chips is Dye. My reaction to a Mateo for Dye trade would be that Mateo is trash compared to what we could/should get for Dye. Except that wasn't the trade you reacted to. It was Mateo and Murton for Dye, which from a Cubs perspective, would be a bad idea. Dye at his best, is probably better than Murton could every dream. But Dye is rarely at his best and is in his mid 30's now, so hoping for a resurgence isn't wise. Typical Dye isn't any better than Murton. I don't see how that could be a bad trade at all. First off, the Cubs are never gonna really utiize Murton correctly, and I really don't see Mateo providing any value to this rotation. A lineup with Dye in RF could easly power this team deep into the playoffs. I would gladly make that sacrifice.

I'm not saying he's likely to be an ace, or the centerpiece of a major trade. I'm simply disputing your statement that he's trash, which is definitely not supported. There's a world of middle ground between being an ace and being trash. I'm just trying to bring some perspective to this....you are not going to get a bat like Dye for a guy of Mateo's value. He may not be trash, but he isn't very good either and I think he is a 5 starter at best. Put yourself as a White Sox fan, and your team is in selling mode....and one of your biggest chips is Dye. My reaction to a Mateo for Dye trade would be that Mateo is trash compared to what we could/should get for Dye.

Who cares really? I understood the point of New Era's post, yet the little Grammar police always have to point out peoples mistakes and derail the topic.

Wow, you can't possibly be serious. He looked very good at times during his callup last year. You consider a 5+ ERA and a 1.62 WHIP very good? He said at times. Mateo wasn't ready for the major leagues last year, but then again neither were any of the other starters (for example, look at the difference between Marshall this year and Marshall last year). He is 24 years old and has been pretty good at every level he's been at besides his callup to the majors. Either this year or next year, he probably will be ready to contribute to a major league team as either a back of the rotation starter or a good bullpen pitcher. Which won't be enough to net Dye in this case...even packaged with Murton.

Mateo's stuff is nowhere near that of those others players mentioned and he has never held such value either.

Wow, you can't possibly be serious. He looked very good at times during his callup last year. You consider a 5+ ERA and a 1.62 WHIP very good?

LOL...Mateo is trash.

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