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  1. It's not just about the draft ranking position, because I disagree with that sometimes. Some guys always look better than others at certain spots. Justin Smoak at #11 looks a whole lot better than Jemile Weeks at #12. I honestly don't get where the Bristow upside is. From what I've read, he's one of those guys nobody but the Cubs like, he doesn't have any upside except he's a miserable failure in terms of guys who used to be Top 20 talent go. Are you saying that he has upside because he used to be considered an elite guy, when he was a high schooler 3 years ago, or is there more to it? "He's struggled but has upside" - I'm more comfortable seeing that out of a guy younger than Bristow. I understand this isn't a 2nd round pick but still, I don't see where there's enthusiasm either.
  2. I don't think "rant" is totally fair. I have higher standards for the draft than most people. I don't see why WE can't be the guys every other teams envies. I said so far this wasn't the worst draft. But as usual I am disappointed. I've ended up doing more ranting on people who get so defensive they go on the attack, like they some personal investment in how Wilken or Hendry and so forth are seen on the board. People are allowed to have positive first impressions but not negative ones apparently. Positive first impressions are great, negative first impressions are "jumping the gun."
  3. Baseball doesn't work like that, there's a thing called "dollar on the muscle", every kid is given this regardless if it is above slot or below it. They have a set budget most likely, maybe since they have increased Pacific Rim scouting and signing that it has made the Cubs more geared towards slot. I don't think we know for sure, but I was throwing out a hypothetical and asking a question. Something to get some excitement about.
  4. I don't understand why people say this. What is there to not understand about this statement? It's obviously true to even the most casual observer. I understand what it means, it's so "obvious" there's really no point to say. Why talk about our season before it's over? Why talk about how Brian Roberts would look in our lineup when there has been no trade made? What is there not to understand that there's nothing wrong with posting your impressions on the draft on a sports message board essentially designed for such purposes?
  5. Wow, you're just determined to stir up trouble with these petty little potshots, aren't you? We're not really talking "facts" here so much, but whatever. If you disagree with me on baseball opinions there's no reason to go where you're going here. You'll notice I asked about the possible high school guys and such. Which no one really bothered to answer, but okay.
  6. Because I've seen ENOUGH of Colvin, and the fact that this guy dared to pull out that lamest of cards "Oh look, nobody believed about Alex Rios now I think this guy is the next Alex Rios and you dare to question the great and powerful Oz" disgusts me. And Samardzija, the awesomely athletic guy with the dump truck of money who has no baseball skills, it's the just same thing we've seen too much of for too long. For most of these guys, they'll sign if the money is there.
  7. When it's not my money and the alternative is drafting a guy with no chance, heck yeah. What do I care? That dump truck doesn't affect me.
  8. I don't understand why people say this. Why do we come to this message board and discuss things then? Let's no one on here go any more out on a limb than "Let's wait and see" and then shut down the board. What's wrong with posting your first impressions? When the Cubs make a pick I like, I'm excited by it. When they don't, I'll complain. I was under the impression that is what sports message boards are for. He's not telling you not to post, he's telling you to hold your water and see how these guys actually perform. His opinion is every bit as valid as yours. "Hold your water?" Nice. His opinions are fine. I just don't like the milquetoast bland "wait and see" attitude about everything. Nothing wrong with posting your first impressions instead of playing it safe all the time.
  9. How many years before we're allowed to object to Wilken then? Even if the draft picks don't work out, I think you can still make picks that, at the time, seem exciting, reasonable, and logical. Obviously you want things to work out. But I see it like this, if the Mets Kazmir for Victor Zambrano trade had actually worked out for the Mets, I'd still think it looked stupid at the time because logically it was. Sometimes illogical moves work and logical ones don't. We're supposed to believe Kenny Williams is an unconventional genius because trading Carlos Lee for Podsednik "brought the team a World Series victory." That trade still looks like an ugly one I wouldn't be quick to repeat. I judge the drafts on how they look at the time with the information we know. There's really no point to judging them after the book has been written on the players drafted - we all know then. Anyway, any high ceiling high school pitchers we could take for our annual 11th/12th round high school pitcher pick? Whatever happened with Daniel Webb? Maybe the Cubs will (ha) back a dump truck full of money up to Alex Meyer's house?
  10. I don't understand why people say this. Why do we come to this message board and discuss things then? Let's no one on here go any more out on a limb than "Let's wait and see" and then shut down the board. What's wrong with posting your first impressions? When the Cubs make a pick I like, I'm excited by it. When they don't, I'll complain. I was under the impression that is what sports message boards are for.
  11. That's more of a pertinent dig when a lot of posters on here don't have a better track record in the past few years than Hendry and Co. Also, I don't like that attack because it doesn't make sense to me. It's like saying you have to be a 5 star chef to know a bad meal when you eat one. People dug up this tired old line about Colvin over Snider, about Samardzija, Huseby instead of Latos or Walden or Lars Anderson, endlessly, and the NSBB guys usually hold their own pretty well against Hendry and his cronies. At least people on NSBB are open to *GASP* a draft that does not include a single player from Virginia. I guess that is part of Jim Hendry's contract with the devil or something, who knows. I didn't say this was the worst draft ever. But it's a lot of what we've come to expect from the Cubs - draft day comes and you envy over some other club. I'd like to see the Cubs try and recoup Cashner's value as a starter, though.
  12. Tell Brewerfan if they like our pick so much I'd gladly swap the Cubs' first two picks with the Brewers'. I like how they're boasting about the sexiness of reliever picks and call NSBB guys "uninformed." People don't seem to understand that you see nobodies become awesome relievers a lot more often than you see nobodies become Hanley Ramirezes, or that an awesome reliever contributes less than a position player or a starter, or that it's usually easier to convert a failed starter into a reliever than vice versa. I didn't see the Royals grab Melville. But let's see - Hosmer, and look at those three arms, Melville, Sample, and Montgomery, wow. Good point. Impact.
  13. Wilken is overrated. He's the Dusty Baker of scouting directors - he had success ten years ago so everyone wants to cut him a break today. Looking at his drafts it looks obvious to me that you can't give this guy credit for the Rays 2004 draft like people have attempted to do. The fact that he tried to sell Tyler Colvin as the next Alex Rios raised my doubts and since then there's been nothing to assuage them. However if the 11th/12th round high school pitcher turns out to be Melville and they sign him I will be feeling more charitable. In years past though there have been teams whose drafts I've agreed with nearly across the board at this point, often the Indians or Diamondbacks, so far I'm not seeing that team.
  14. The pitchers look better than the mess of infielders and Carpenter isn't a horrible pick but that's a lot of injury risk. Schafer sounds vaguely (not the arm injury) like Huseby without the pile of cash. I think I would've liked a guy like Tyler Sample in that spot better. The Flaherty pick is particularly vexing considering what was on the board there. Flaherty - not going to stay at shortstop and strikes out a boatload, we've been here before.
  15. A lot of teams made some head-scratching moves so we're not alone. I don't see other teams governed almost solely by idiosyncracies though. This is what the war room sounds like: "LISTEN UP PEOPLE. WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO DRAFT A PLAYER FROM VIRGINIA EACH YEAR." I don't think any time drafts highly as much in a few select southeastern states as the Cubs do, and it wouldn't surprise me if we drafted the fewest guys out west or in Texas highly. It's like 90% of this is Florida, Virginia, and some Midwest. And now the Cubs will take a high school pitcher in either the 11th or 12th rounds like they are required by law too.
  16. No. I'm just being frustrated. I can already see 2007 all over again where we sit around and try and convince each other that Darwin Barney is a fine pick for where he was drafted, etc. etc.
  17. I don't get it. Where are the assets to this guy?
  18. Wow, I nailed the Bristow pick. I mentioned him like two months ago as a likely pick because he's from Virginia and the Cubs considered him in 2005. His college career has been pretty blah though. I don't like this draft. Every draft day people on here bend over backwards to paint a shiny, happy picture and the following years we end up surprised when we have a lump of coal. You compare these picks to all the prospect lists, they all look like reaches and there are always better guys on the board when they picked. Using your first pick on a closer is stupid. This "He'll be helping us in September" crap they use to brainwash people never pans out, I didn't Casey Weathers helping the Rockies in September, so forth. And nobody ever try and defend Wilken using that 2004 Rays draft crap again. It's obvious that was Tampa, not Wilken, this guy doesn't draft high schoolers. It was the Rays who grabbed guys like Jake McGee, Wilken is a Blue Jay through and through, nothing but a lot of blah college guys or injured college guys. Cerda looks like a nothing guy, Flaherty not much better. It's not as bad as it could've been. Huzzah.
  19. I'd rather have Josh Fields than Hewitt. At least Fields will most likely make the majors, whereas Hewitt it's going to be nothing but that butt-ugly Ryan Harvey career path.
  20. You've got to be kidding. Hewitt is the prototype of the type of clown the Cubs can't do *anything* with. The Baseball Prospectus mock draft said: "Some think he’s the next Bo Jackson, and some think he’ll never get out of A-ball, but he offers more to dream on than anyone in a draft that offers few players with elite-level upside." Okay, problem with that - we've seen the guys who never get out of A-ball, and Bo Jackson wasn't that great even. This is where the Cubs get really dumb, they spend their time chasing windmills a la Don Quixote. Enough with going after all the tools, just get the bat at this point, I'm so fed up. Jim Callis from Baseball America: "Q: Chet from Chimney Sweep, Nebraska asks: Who is the most over-hyped player in the draft? A: Jim Callis: I think it's Anthony Hewitt right now. I think he'd be a nice fit for a team with extra picks but I just don't see him as a true first-rounder." Somewhere else Callis said that Hewitt might be the most athletic guy in the draft but his bat was highly questionable, and he made reference there to another column he wrote about first rounders with questionable bats rarely working out. This guy sounds like the worst possible fit for the Cubs.
  21. The Cubs are required by law to draft someone from Virginia early, I wonder who it'll be. The top Virginia guys seem to be David Adams, a 2b, and pitcher Jacob Thompson.
  22. You and me both. Maybe Hendry will be content to draft Odorizzi and get his athlete-with-no-bat-skills fix in the compensation round with Isaac Galloway.
  23. The Cub fondness seems to be for useless athleticism. For example, Anthony Hewitt is one of the best athletes in the draft, but he's going to be a 3b they say. Come on. If he's that damn athletic shouldn't there be more hope for him playing a more useful position? This reminds me of Soriano. Soriano is an incredible athlete. He's an amazing athlete who plays center field worse than Moneyball Nick Swisher, Soriano's a phenomenal athlete who, this year, plays left field about as well as Adam Dunn and Carlos Lee. Maybe get some athletes whose athleticism actually translates into something useful in the game of BASEBALL. I probably shouldn't open this can of worms, but how did Jim Hendry pass up an ATHLETE like Josh Hamilton in the Rule 5? There's more badass athleticism and tools up the wazoo there than in all the Samardzijas, Guyers, Hewitts, Pies, Colvins, etc. combined. Seriously, if Hendry can love these athletes who don't know which way to hold the bat, how could he pass up a guy with ATHLETICISM off the charts just because he has a drug problem?
  24. I don't understand why the Cubs are so high on all of these raw, toolsy, awesomely athletic players - you'd think they've successfully developed a ton of them, instead of zero. In half of these athletes you don't even see what assets this athleticism brings. It's like we draft players in order to beat the other team in a pick-up game of some other sport. It's this stubborn failure to learn from mistakes that makes it even more irritating. 24. Phillies Salisbury (Conn.) H.S. SS-OF Anthony Hewitt: Hewitt has tools and could be the Cubs' choice if Kelly is off the board. Son of a... seriously, did anyone else see what Callis had to say about this guy? "Most overrated player in the draft?" "Bat highly questionable?" Why am I cursed being a fan of this organization? We'd rather have Corey Patterson, Jacque Jones, and Felix Pie than Manny Ramirez and Miguel Cabrera. Make it end, make it end. I'm not sure how Brett Wallace got so high either. Back to the complaining. The Cubs make me hate athletic toolsy guys. They really do. And why do they only draft the Wily Mo Pena/Corey Patterson/Chad Hermansen type athletes and never the Carl Crawford/Matt Kemp type athletes?
  25. Yes but the idea of a bullpen of Wood-Marmol-Wuertz-Guzman-Howry-Fields in September destroys any counterargument! You know how people say a good bullpen can shorten a game to 6 innings? That bullpen would shorten games to negative innings, so we'd be winning games by never even stepping on the field. I ask you how can anyone be against that?
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