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I just think it's more fair to allow the people that are trying to rebuild their teams to also have the opportunity to draft minor leaguers, separately from the ML draft. if the goal is to help rebuild the "down" teams, the obvious solution is to either not allow the trading of 1st round picks or limit the amount of points a team can dump after the season. every year a good team unloads all its B/B+ players to a down team for high draft picks. this allows the good team to keep all their A/A- players and pick up more A/A- players with their draft picks. then the down team keeps a bunch of their B/B- players and gets a bunch more B/B- players in the draft because they don't have any high draft picks. I don't totally agree here. For instance, I traded Howard and Kazmir for a first and second round pick. If you don't think that both of them would be gone in the first round of the draft had I released them, then I don't know when they would be picked. They're definitely not B/B+ players.

Well.. Deven, take your time. Looks like the draft room is blocked here at work so I won't be able to make my pick until I get home around 4pm EST.

I disagree on the draft order but agree on the number of rounds. Using waivers isn't much different from a draft anyway. We'll go three rounds. You can always pass. What is the reason to wait until after the major league draft? I'd say that it just makes things less confusing to have one draft going on at a time..

Fair... I like it. Lets get this thing started! Tim... you're on the clock.

I like the way it has been, but that's probably pretty predictable since I've probably made heavier use of prospects than anyone else under the current system. yea, but if you look at some of the new managers, they are kind of hosed by the current system. at this point, the prospect rosters are pretty well developed to the point where we could probably just do it by waivers. the sticking point is, what is a prospect and what isn't when it comes to the draft? Should we make it like Rule 5 - if you draft them they have to stay on your major league roster all year? Or is there some other rule that would work? I dunno about Rule 5, lets just say that anyone who meets the requirements to be in the minor leagues is a prospect. They cannot be drafted in the major league draft. That would be a valid definition for purposes of this league. That would allow us to work out the specifics for a minor league draft while also beginning the major league draft. no, I don't like that because players like david price then couldn't be picked and that would be silly (not that these guys are generally available anyway). A variation might be to say that if you draft a player that still is minor league eligible in the major league phase you have to keep him on your major league roster or release him unless he actually gets sent down to the minor leagues. What if he starts in the minors though? If minor leaguers are going to be drafted in the ML draft, there has to be a rule 5 type thing implemented I guess. That's the only way to keep it fair. That way, the player takes up a roster space or has to be dropped.

I like the way it has been, but that's probably pretty predictable since I've probably made heavier use of prospects than anyone else under the current system. yea, but if you look at some of the new managers, they are kind of hosed by the current system. at this point, the prospect rosters are pretty well developed to the point where we could probably just do it by waivers. the sticking point is, what is a prospect and what isn't when it comes to the draft? Should we make it like Rule 5 - if you draft them they have to stay on your major league roster all year? Or is there some other rule that would work? I dunno about Rule 5, lets just say that anyone who meets the requirements to be in the minor leagues is a prospect. They cannot be drafted in the major league draft. That would be a valid definition for purposes of this league. That would allow us to work out the specifics for a minor league draft while also beginning the major league draft. no, I don't like that because players like david price then couldn't be picked and that would be silly (not that these guys are generally available anyway). But then he could be picked in a prospects type draft. Are there really any players available out there that are good enough to be ML players this year like Price anyway?

I just think it's more fair to allow the people that are trying to rebuild their teams to also have the opportunity to draft minor leaguers, separately from the ML draft.

I like the way it has been, but that's probably pretty predictable since I've probably made heavier use of prospects than anyone else under the current system. yea, but if you look at some of the new managers, they are kind of hosed by the current system. at this point, the prospect rosters are pretty well developed to the point where we could probably just do it by waivers. the sticking point is, what is a prospect and what isn't when it comes to the draft? Should we make it like Rule 5 - if you draft them they have to stay on your major league roster all year? Or is there some other rule that would work? I dunno about Rule 5, lets just say that anyone who meets the requirements to be in the minor leagues is a prospect. They cannot be drafted in the major league draft. That would be a valid definition for purposes of this league. That would allow us to work out the specifics for a minor league draft while also beginning the major league draft.

I'm up for doing it this way, that would be fine. I do think it makes it more fair for the teams that are trying to rebuild since they can't afford to use mid round draft picks to draft guys that are going to sit in their minors. I'd be all up for it in 09. We could structure it the same way, meaning finish the main draft first then do 24 hours in between minor league picks after that. Maybe 3 rounds worth or something?

Haha! I love it! He'll actually coach the team. Prince didn't do much of that. We'll see how it turns out!

Well, these are the guys I'm letting go of: C Ramon Hernandez 1B Mike Jacobs 3B Edwin Encarnacion 3B/OF Mark Teahan SS Michael Young OF Luke Scott SP Gil Meche SP Paul Maholm RP Brian Wilson Great! A steaming pile of crap. Thanks for that! I'd say we should wonder how he won with that much crap on his roster, but CC & Lincecum were both abused down the stretch and racked up amazing points for him. Too bad they'll be ruined for this year. :D Manny becoming early 00s Bonds also helped. I've been you two straight years in the playoffs with that much crap on my roster. :) Yeah, '07 really pissed me off. I thought I had a better team than you last year, but it certainly wasn't my best roster. It did make me regret some of the deadline trades, though. I felt like I had the better team in the finals, but it didn't work out well for me! Needless to say, I was NOT happy!

Well, these are the guys I'm letting go of: C Ramon Hernandez 1B Mike Jacobs 3B Edwin Encarnacion 3B/OF Mark Teahan SS Michael Young OF Luke Scott SP Gil Meche SP Paul Maholm RP Brian Wilson Great! A steaming pile of crap. Thanks for that! I'd say we should wonder how he won with that much crap on his roster, but CC & Lincecum were both abused down the stretch and racked up amazing points for him. Too bad they'll be ruined for this year. :D On top of that, I had a horrible first week of the finals.

Wonder who is gonna be available for me at #4... Looking like the draft is going to be better than last year.

I accepted our trade. It was a pleasure doing business. Good deal! Bye bye Rowland Smith, Hello Litsch! I may regret trading Fowler in the long term, however my minors have a ton of OF and I could stand to lose one of them.

Here's Mine... Still willing to shop prospects for an exempt SP though. Morneau 569.8 Hanley (exempt) Markakis (exempt) Braun (exempt) Granderson (494.2) Halladay 762.5 Garza (exempt) Floyd (exempt) Volstad (exempt) Rowland-Smith (exempt) All my prospects in the minors are sticking around as well...

If I were a betting man I'd bet that nobody comes closer to 2000 points.Lol... Justin just made a trade for Reyes that put him at 1997.5! Wrong by one point! haha!

Wow.. V... It's been a LONG time! That being said, I'd keep Berkman, Wright, Sizemore, and Peavy

Any of my minor leaguers are available for an exempt SP. Alonso Saunders Wallace Fowler Heyward Jackson Reimold McDonald Poreda Mulvey

I still cannot drop players.

Looks like all the draft pick trades got reversed with the roster issue. Just FYI..

I think the target date is March 8th, not the 22nd. That works as well.

Matt, Justin, and I are definitely fine with that time on Sunday the 22nd!

Weekend of 3/13 I'm out. I can do it any weeknight except Tuesday after 7pm ET. Otherwise, I'm good with any other weekend. I think Matt's good anytime and I'll check with Justin to see when he's available, but weekends for him are probably best cuz of tax season and late work hours.

Ok Juan.. Check should be in the mail. I sent it via the web from my bank. Don

I'll be sending paymet for Matt, Justin and I in a couple days. I'll shoot you a pm when sent. Sorry, been a long week of work and haven't been able to get it out yet. Don