you know i dont think this is as bad....if guys in front of lee and ramirez are input there with better OBP's i think you will see them , especially Lee, start to get really hot...it never seems that soriano is on anyways when Lee and Ram are up. I think this could have been far worse losing any of Lee, Ramirez, Zambrano, Lilly, or Marmol tonight..... plus, they dont play the really tough teams until the end of the month...a lot of Astros, Reds, Cardinals to deal with