I missed this comment earlier, but I have two questions. 1. What, in your mind, make the 3-4 defense a "gimmicky" scheme? 2. Do you feel that the Tampa 2 defense is also a "gimmicky" scheme? If you don't consider it a gimmick, please explain why. i only consider it a gimmicky scheme because the packers run it, of course. but don't worry, they'll get their dismantling soon. and the tampa-2 is about as conventional as defenses get. I have to say I'm disappointed with your response. At the very least I was hoping you would make another incoherent rant like the one you started when the Steelers hired Mike Tomlin. I guess I will have to settle for your response to Banedon. I also find your response about the Tampa 2 funny, especially after you incorrectly described the 3-4 as: Change the oversized linemen to undersized linemen and that would be a great definition for the personnel needed to play a Tampa 2. If you want to attack a real gimmick defense, then by all means attack the 1-5-5 or 2-4-5 that the Packers will be using in nickel and dime packages.