It will be interesting to see if the Reds involve Hatteberg into the deal. Salty has been playing 1st base for the Braves, so this way they get a SP and a 1st baseman. I think I would ask for another prospect if Hatteberg was added into the deal, though. Maybe a lower level pitcher. You think the reds should ask for another prospect from the braves?!?!? Arroyo has been absolutely brutul up until late. Hes signed to a fair contract, I don't see the point in trading for him when they can probably go out and find a guy like him in the FA market for the same pricetag. As somebody who watches just about every Reds game, him struggling had more to do with Narron then it did Arroyo. He's been pitching MUCH better since Narron got canned. While (as I acknowledged) he has pitched better lately, can you explain how Narron was the cause? I could be wrong, but I thought his turn around started before Narron was gone. June 29th was when Arroyo started his string of good starts, July 2nd was when Narron was fired. well, he had good starts while narron was there, he's been far more consistent since narron was fired though. whether that's the cause or not...I don't know. but i wouldn't point to one start to prove much of anything in this case. he had a similar 6 start stretch earlier this year.