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2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:39 pm

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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby Andy » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:53 pm

Well, he's better than Darnold and cost almost nothing, so OK.
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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby OleMissCub » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:11 pm

Andy wrote:Well, he's better than Darnold and cost almost nothing, so OK.


Corral in 2023.
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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby Andy » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:11 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
Andy wrote:Well, he's better than Darnold and cost almost nothing, so OK.


Corral in 2023.

A nonzero part of this deal is that Corral can spend the year developing rather than get tossed to the wolves if Darnold had started and gotten hurt (as he did last year).
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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby Derwood » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:41 pm

From #1 overall pick to being traded for a conditional 5th.

And replaced by a guy who is probably going to be suspended for the season.

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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby TomtheBombadil » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:01 pm

It’s a great fit on paper and that team is plenty talented :dontknow:
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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby David » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:18 pm

lol why do we have a thread for a crappy qb being traded
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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby OleMissCub » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:42 pm

David wrote:lol why do we have a thread for a crappy qb being traded


because I didn't want to start a NFL offseason thread just for it either lol

plus megathreads are evil
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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby Outshined_One » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:00 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
David wrote:lol why do we have a thread for a crappy qb being traded


because I didn't want to start a NFL offseason thread just for it either lol

plus megathreads are evil


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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby OleMissCub » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:19 pm

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Re: Baker to the Panthers

Postby David » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:20 pm

OleMissCub wrote:
David wrote:lol why do we have a thread for a crappy qb being traded


because I didn't want to start a NFL offseason thread just for it either lol

plus megathreads are evil


i'm as anti-megathread as they come, but even I can't get behind a dedicated baker mayfield trade thread on nsbb

also, "baker to the panthers?" in what world has he earned first-name-basis status?
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:41 pm

Anyways back to the move. I am trembling with glee waiting for the Watson suspension to come down. Browns might ultimately get some good seasons out of Watson but lets recap what they did:

-Gave significant assets to acquire a great QB but one who has 20+ allegations of sexual misconduct, has not played a game in 1.5 years, and is awaiting a massive suspension
-Gave that QB a massive extension
-Did not have a plan to figure out what to do with their current franchise QB and ended up trading him away for essentially nothing

Now Watson is looking at a suspension that will likely continue into the 2023 season. When he plays his first game with Cleveland it will be nearly 3 years since his last game which is roughly the amount of time between games that Vick had after going to jail. The Browns who are otherwise in a win now position are forced to use Jacoby Brissett at QB and are limited in draft assets because of the Watson trade (though I assume Watson's contract will not count against the cap while suspended?). Oh and the QB they gambled their future on is a piece of horsefeathers.

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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby NOLA » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:06 pm

Great trade for the Panthers, so I hate it. Baker is poised for a huge comeback this season. His shoulder was held together with superglue last year, and it was for the Browns organization.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby cl smooth » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:27 pm

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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby UMFan83 » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:32 pm

NOLA wrote:Great trade for the Panthers, so I hate it. Baker is poised for a huge comeback this season. His shoulder was held together with superglue last year, and it was for the Browns organization.


Yes and that's the other thing too....it's not like the Browns had a terrible QB situation. Baker is Baker but clearly injuries had an effect on his play and he actually really liked playing in Cleveland. I get that the Browns had to make a decision on his future contractually but it seems really weird to take such a gigantic risk to get a low character guy like Watson and then extend him instead of bringing back Baker and/or maybe working something out with him for the next few years.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby NOLA » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:36 pm

cl smooth wrote:https://twitter.com/KyleAMadson/status/1544770508368986112

Whooooaaah. Aaron Rodgers is a deep thinker, man. If he weren’t good at football he’d be doing shrooms and telling us how cool 311 is.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby Derwood » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:57 pm

We already have an offseason mega-thread: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=4181
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby rawaction » Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:05 am

UMFan83 wrote:Anyways back to the move. I am trembling with glee waiting for the Watson suspension to come down. Browns might ultimately get some good seasons out of Watson but lets recap what they did:

-Gave significant assets to acquire a great QB but one who has 20+ allegations of sexual misconduct, has not played a game in 1.5 years, and is awaiting a massive suspension
-Gave that QB a massive extension
-Did not have a plan to figure out what to do with their current franchise QB and ended up trading him away for essentially nothing

Now Watson is looking at a suspension that will likely continue into the 2023 season. When he plays his first game with Cleveland it will be nearly 3 years since his last game which is roughly the amount of time between games that Vick had after going to jail. The Browns who are otherwise in a win now position are forced to use Jacoby Brissett at QB and are limited in draft assets because of the Watson trade (though I assume Watson's contract will not count against the cap while suspended?). Oh and the QB they gambled their future on is a piece of horsefeathers.

I may not believe in karma but sometimes I wonder.


The Browns are somehow in not that bad of a situation, all things considered. Browns got 2 3rd round comps for Adofo Mensah going to the Vikings. So they have a couple early picks the next few years despite not having any 1sts from the Watson trade. They also somehow have managed to have a TON of cap space in 2022 still (48M+ depending on how much they ate of Mayfield's money).

I think the play here will be a trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy G is now the last domino remaining, they aren't going to trade him to Seattle, so that leaves the Browns as the only team with a huge QB need that might make a move. Once the Watson suspension is official, I'd imagine the Jimmy G trade goes down shortly thereafter.

Jimmy G would give them a guy that can give them a legit QB that has shown he can take a team to the playoffs. They are also one of the few teams that can afford to take on his contract at this point. And that contract isn't terrible, considering he's a FA after 2022. Which works out perfectly for the Browns, who will likely get Watson back in 2023. Jimmy G would probably want a long-term deal in a trade, but the market is dried up and this would serve as an audition season for him where he makes a lot of money and he has a good enough team that he can take them to the playoffs and get his long-term deal after the season with another team.

The Browns are in cap hell going forward, but Jimmy G doesn't really affect that since he's a FA.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby Old Style » Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:04 pm

6 games and no fine for Massage Watson.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby mul21 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:04 pm

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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby soccer10k » Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:38 pm

mul21 wrote:https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1554099748772073472?s=20&t=oGi3v8gsNnWd3o493YxMFA


Also, placing a couple parlays on games you’re not even playing in is apparently 3 times worse than sexually assaulting 30 women.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:25 pm

soccer10k wrote:
mul21 wrote:https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1554099748772073472?s=20&t=oGi3v8gsNnWd3o493YxMFA


Also, placing a couple parlays on games you’re not even playing in is apparently 3 times worse than sexually assaulting 30 women.

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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:46 pm

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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby mul21 » Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:02 pm

JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:https://twitter.com/draftcheat/status/1554123295074570240


There's a pretty vast difference between paying a hooker for a handy and assaulting women against their will.
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Re: 2022 NFL Offseason Thread

Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:32 pm

mul21 wrote:
JudasIscariotTheBird wrote:https://twitter.com/draftcheat/status/1554123295074570240


There's a pretty vast difference between paying a hooker for a handy and assaulting women against their will.

And is it pretty similar if the hooker was a human trafficing victim?
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