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Postby Sammy Sofa » Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:50 pm

Here's a random music hot take stemming from me going through my collection: The Love Below, outside of, like, 2-3 songs, kinda....sucks? Or at least has not aged well at all.
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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:09 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Here's a random music hot take stemming from me going through my collection: The Love Below, outside of, like, 2-3 songs, kinda....sucks? Or at least has not aged well at all.
I could never really get into it. Speakerboxxx OTOH...

Big Boi has an absolutely stellar catalog

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Postby We Got The Whole 9 » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:12 am

I may or may not get ripped for this but I've been listening to Skid Row - Slave to the Grind, daily. Only a couple songs have not held up. Their debut I can't say the same for but that 2nd album is amazing.

Oh and yet more randomness but Blind Melon was terrific.
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Postby JudasIscariotTheBird » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:08 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Here's a random music hot take stemming from me going through my collection: The Love Below, outside of, like, 2-3 songs, kinda....sucks? Or at least has not aged well at all.

I had the opposite take here years ago and I think most everyone here agrees with you.
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Re: Music Thread 2.0

Postby Derwood » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:20 am

cl smooth wrote:https://twitter.com/pitchfork/status/1604219936364273666

80 7-inch records, 159 tracks. holy horsefeathers.

https://shop.paulmccartney.com/products ... ingles-box

edit: sold out already. $612 before shipping.


https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/pa ... h-singles/

When the crate arrived at my house containing every solo Paul McCartney single on vinyl, I admit at first I gaped in horror: 80 7-inches, 159 tracks, sealed in a pine box. Who is this for? Me, that’s who: a 41-year-old white guy whose version of the White Album, taped off of his father’s vinyl, hiccuped so badly he sang along to a skipping “I Will” for 25 years.


If there is a labored metaphor to be reached between the Beatles and Star Wars, that other endlessly renewing fount of nostalgia (hold tight), The 7" Singles Box is somewhere between Obi-Wan Kenobi (pointless, hollow) and Andor (unnecessary, but delightful).
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Re: Music Thread 2.0

Postby cl smooth » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:36 am

I absolutely LOVE Daryl Hall and John Oates yet never realized “Family Man” was a cover of a Mike Oldfield song:

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Sammy Sofa wrote:Here's a random music hot take stemming from me going through my collection: The Love Below, outside of, like, 2-3 songs, kinda....sucks? Or at least has not aged well at all.
I could never really get into it. Speakerboxxx OTOH...

Big Boi has an absolutely stellar catalog


Yeah, I get why it blew up at the time just because it was SO different and everyone wanted it to be great and next level because Outkast's trajectory to that point had been nuts...but time, IMO, has not been kind at all to it. And it's not even a matter of it at least having a run of killer singles that makes it seem better in hindsight; you have the top tier all timer in "Hey Ya!" and that's horsefeathering IT. "Prototype" is a mess, and "Roses," I'm sorry, sucks hard. It is some seriously cringey, corny horsefeathers.

I was just surprised at how much I flat out disliked the album finally listening to it way after the fact, and it just makes it suck even more that Andre has basically vanished musically post-Idlewild (which, let's face it, arguably doesn't even exist), because it means this is what he basically went out on. Like, it would be cool if it really was this weird, trippy mix of styles and vibes, but I didn't get that at all this time around. It just sounded like a mess; a bunch of half-baked ideas and music sketches that aren't really anchored by the 3-4ish "real songs" on the album. Like, people rightly roast big hip-hop names when they put out what sound like 70%-done albums these days, but I'd argue that horsefeathers started with this one.
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Postby Old Style » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:58 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:Oh and yet more randomness but Blind Melon was terrific.

They slipped past me when they were an active band probably because of No Rain. Never cared to check out the rest of their catalog after hearing that. A year or two ago I heard some of their stuff at my barbershop so I listed to the self title and Soup albums all the way through for the first time. I was blown away at how good they were. No Rain is definitely an outlier for them. Wish I had gotten the chance to see them live.
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Postby BigbadB » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:29 pm

We Got The Whole 9 wrote:I may or may not get ripped for this but I've been listening to Skid Row - Slave to the Grind, daily. Only a couple songs have not held up. Their debut I can't say the same for but that 2nd album is amazing.

Oh and yet more randomness but Blind Melon was terrific.


Opposite for me. I loved the Skid Row debut album more than Slave, but Slave was good. Interestingly enough, I'm currently reading "Nothin' But A Good Time" which is the uncensored history of glam rock/hair metal from the '80's. I was a fan of many of those bands, but I'm in that age group that fit perfectly. I'm the same age as most of those bands from that era...Motley, Ratt, Cinderella, LA Guns, etc...and I had a secret obsession with wanting to be on stage doing what they were doing. Problem was I never learned an instrument and I lived in the middle of nowhere, IL.

Just bought my first electric guitar and getting ready to do online lessons. Meanwhile, while reading this book, my headphones are playing all of the debut albums of all of those hair metal bands. Probably a bit too late to live my dream, but I'm cooped up in the house with nothing better to do. LOL. I don't typically even listen to that era of music these days, preferring more of a blues/blues rock sound these days, but it's fun to go back and reminisce.
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Re: Music Thread 2.0

Postby Splendid Splinter » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:53 pm

Old Style wrote:
We Got The Whole 9 wrote:Oh and yet more randomness but Blind Melon was terrific.

They slipped past me when they were an active band probably because of No Rain. Never cared to check out the rest of their catalog after hearing that. A year or two ago I heard some of their stuff at my barbershop so I listed to the self title and Soup albums all the way through for the first time. I was blown away at how good they were. No Rain is definitely an outlier for them. Wish I had gotten the chance to see them live.


Fun fact: my art teacher from high school used to babysit Shannon Hoon (lead singer)

Another fun fact: Hoon was born in the same town where Da Bum grew up.
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Postby grassbass » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:56 pm

Splendid Splinter wrote:
Another fun fact: Hoon was born in the same town where Da Bum grew up.


Unfortunately, so was I.
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Postby cl smooth » Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:32 pm

grassbass wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Another fun fact: Hoon was born in the same town where Da Bum grew up.


Unfortunately, so was I.


Makes ya wonder what was in that thick onion gravy
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Re: Music Thread 2.0

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grassbass wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Another fun fact: Hoon was born in the same town where Da Bum grew up.


Unfortunately, so was I.


Interesting. I grew up about 25 minutes northwest.

Fun fact #3 about Hoon: His older sister was friends with Axl Rose and Izzy.
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Postby grassbass » Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:11 pm

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Another fun fact: Hoon was born in the same town where Da Bum grew up.


Unfortunately, so was I.


Interesting. I grew up about 25 minutes northwest.

Fun fact #3 about Hoon: His older sister was friends with Axl Rose and Izzy.


Yeah, I believe Axl went to my high school for like a year and a half. That was years before I was there though.
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cl smooth wrote:
grassbass wrote:
Splendid Splinter wrote:
Another fun fact: Hoon was born in the same town where Da Bum grew up.


Unfortunately, so was I.


Makes ya wonder what was in that thick onion gravy


Not that Da Bum didn't say some stupid horsefeathers, but wasn't hccf the "thick onion gravy" guy?
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:21 pm

grassbass wrote:
cl smooth wrote:
grassbass wrote:
Unfortunately, so was I.


Makes ya wonder what was in that thick onion gravy


Not that Da Bum didn't say some stupid horsefeathers, but wasn't hccf the "thick onion gravy" guy?


True, but thick onion gravy has definitely transcended to being more of a distinct vibe.
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:22 pm

Hey guys: y'know what album just turned 20?

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Postby Irrelevant Dude » Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:32 pm

BigbadB wrote:
We Got The Whole 9 wrote:I may or may not get ripped for this but I've been listening to Skid Row - Slave to the Grind, daily. Only a couple songs have not held up. Their debut I can't say the same for but that 2nd album is amazing.

Oh and yet more randomness but Blind Melon was terrific.


Opposite for me. I loved the Skid Row debut album more than Slave, but Slave was good. Interestingly enough, I'm currently reading "Nothin' But A Good Time" which is the uncensored history of glam rock/hair metal from the '80's. I was a fan of many of those bands, but I'm in that age group that fit perfectly. I'm the same age as most of those bands from that era...Motley, Ratt, Cinderella, LA Guns, etc...and I had a secret obsession with wanting to be on stage doing what they were doing. Problem was I never learned an instrument and I lived in the middle of nowhere, IL.

Just bought my first electric guitar and getting ready to do online lessons. Meanwhile, while reading this book, my headphones are playing all of the debut albums of all of those hair metal bands. Probably a bit too late to live my dream, but I'm cooped up in the house with nothing better to do. LOL. I don't typically even listen to that era of music these days, preferring more of a blues/blues rock sound these days, but it's fun to go back and reminisce.

I'm interested to hear how the online lessons work out for you, and what you end up using. I took guitar lessons for a short time when I was in middle school, then dropped it until I got out of college and started taking lessons again. Things were going well until my instructor moved away and was replaced by a kid who was much younger than me and I never went back. I still have my guitar stored away in a closet, and coincidentally the Nothin' But A Good Time book that you referenced sits unread in that same closet. I have frequently debated getting back into guitar again in some form, but I'm not sure I'll ever do another in-person lesson. If there was a really good online option, I would definitely consider that. Good luck to you!
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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:34 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:
grassbass wrote:
cl smooth wrote:
Makes ya wonder what was in that thick onion gravy


Not that Da Bum didn't say some stupid horsefeathers, but wasn't hccf the "thick onion gravy" guy?


True, but thick onion gravy has definitely transcended to being more of a distinct vibe.


Actually, thick onion gravy wasn't hccf, surprisingly. Who the hell was that?
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Sammy Sofa wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:
grassbass wrote:
Not that Da Bum didn't say some stupid horsefeathers, but wasn't hccf the "thick onion gravy" guy?


True, but thick onion gravy has definitely transcended to being more of a distinct vibe.


Actually, thick onion gravy wasn't hccf, surprisingly. Who the hell was that?



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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:19 pm

Wait, only rocket replied to that? How the hell did it take off?
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Postby Splendid Splinter » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:26 pm

Sammy Sofa wrote:Wait, only rocket replied to that? How the hell did it take off?



SSR posted it later because someone couldn’t find it iirc. Then Stannis just used that phrase like Tom uses “Future Value” (and others) in his posts after the SSR post. Caught on from there.
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Sammy Sofa wrote:
We Got The Whole 9 wrote:
Sammy Sofa wrote:Here's a random music hot take stemming from me going through my collection: The Love Below, outside of, like, 2-3 songs, kinda....sucks? Or at least has not aged well at all.
I could never really get into it. Speakerboxxx OTOH...

Big Boi has an absolutely stellar catalog


Yeah, I get why it blew up at the time just because it was SO different and everyone wanted it to be great and next level because Outkast's trajectory to that point had been nuts...but time, IMO, has not been kind at all to it. And it's not even a matter of it at least having a run of killer singles that makes it seem better in hindsight; you have the top tier all timer in "Hey Ya!" and that's horsefeathering IT. "Prototype" is a mess, and "Roses," I'm sorry, sucks hard. It is some seriously cringey, corny horsefeathers.

I was just surprised at how much I flat out disliked the album finally listening to it way after the fact, and it just makes it suck even more that Andre has basically vanished musically post-Idlewild (which, let's face it, arguably doesn't even exist), because it means this is what he basically went out on. Like, it would be cool if it really was this weird, trippy mix of styles and vibes, but I didn't get that at all this time around. It just sounded like a mess; a bunch of half-baked ideas and music sketches that aren't really anchored by the 3-4ish "real songs" on the album. Like, people rightly roast big hip-hop names when they put out what sound like 70%-done albums these days, but I'd argue that horsefeathers started with this one.


He has dropped some nice guest verses but not enough, and not all up to snuff, either. It's sad when he speaks of writer's block and blames a lot of it on fear of criticism. This dude blazed a trail among copycats and really had people re-thinking what a complete MC was. But since he went into hiding, the critics have gone in on him pretty hard. "The internet" has been way too disrespectful of a legend who was unafraid to step out and be himself. I guess if I was born after 95 I might have a different perspective. If someone told me he was in GOAT talks and I listened to Love Below I would probably never talk hip-hop with that person again.

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Postby Sammy Sofa » Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:56 pm

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We Got The Whole 9 wrote:I could never really get into it. Speakerboxxx OTOH...

Big Boi has an absolutely stellar catalog


Yeah, I get why it blew up at the time just because it was SO different and everyone wanted it to be great and next level because Outkast's trajectory to that point had been nuts...but time, IMO, has not been kind at all to it. And it's not even a matter of it at least having a run of killer singles that makes it seem better in hindsight; you have the top tier all timer in "Hey Ya!" and that's horsefeathering IT. "Prototype" is a mess, and "Roses," I'm sorry, sucks hard. It is some seriously cringey, corny horsefeathers.

I was just surprised at how much I flat out disliked the album finally listening to it way after the fact, and it just makes it suck even more that Andre has basically vanished musically post-Idlewild (which, let's face it, arguably doesn't even exist), because it means this is what he basically went out on. Like, it would be cool if it really was this weird, trippy mix of styles and vibes, but I didn't get that at all this time around. It just sounded like a mess; a bunch of half-baked ideas and music sketches that aren't really anchored by the 3-4ish "real songs" on the album. Like, people rightly roast big hip-hop names when they put out what sound like 70%-done albums these days, but I'd argue that horsefeathers started with this one.


He has dropped some nice guest verses but not enough, and not all up to snuff, either. It's sad when he speaks of writer's block and blames a lot of it on fear of criticism. This dude blazed a trail among copycats and really had people re-thinking what a complete MC was. But since he went into hiding, the critics have gone in on him pretty hard. "The internet" has been way too disrespectful of a legend who was unafraid to step out and be himself. I guess if I was born after 95 I might have a different perspective. If someone told me he was in GOAT talks and I listened to Love Below I would probably never talk to that person again.

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Honestly, when I see people talk about his guest spots online, it's still usually with the tone that he killed it, and people are dying for him to either put out an album, or at least show up on other people's albums more often. Personally, I don't think TLB did anything to his overall well-deserved reputation, and his lack of music has just made people appreciate him even more.

I mean, yeah, maybe he was just done. You gather up everything pre-TLB, and he basically put out 6 albums' worth of amazing music, which is a hell of a lot more than most people do in any genre. Like you said, the guy has a complicated relationship with music and creativity and being in the public eye, and maybe he said almost everything he wanted or could say as an MC. In that context, it actually makes me appreciate TLB a bit more as just this crazy feakout to blow it all up (though that still requires ignoring Idlewild, which I'm more than happy to do).
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Postby Proven Veteran » Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:06 am

Sammy Sofa wrote:Hey guys: y'know what album just turned 20?




I love that album.
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